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    Well wheres this cheapy ls6 you guys were talkin about?

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    Crateengines.com has it. Keep an eye on it. Sometimes they have deals on it, whether it be the engine price or shipping.
    Seems to fluctuate between $3400 and $3600.

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    2002 Camaro Z/28 Pewter

    scoggin dickey also carries them but you have to call them to see if they are in stock last i checked they were going for 3200 shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbird555 View Post
    scoggin dickey also carries them but you have to call them to see if they are in stock last i checked they were going for 3200 shipped.
    That's gotta be the best deal I've heard on them so far.

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    are these long blocks? or short?

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    Im pretty sure thats a new longblock.. they are on ebay for 3299 but scoggin got way more breaks on cost ..

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    Yes, long blocks. They are missing the intake manifold, so you'll have to swap yours over.
    They also come with the CTS-V oil pan, so your LS pan will have to be swapped on as well.

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    ^^ well i figure now would be the time to get a better intake and a P/P TB?

    http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1625C273.aspx
    $3723
    this is it.. right?

    and i check SDPC..its a short block for $3350
    http://sdparts.com/details/scoggin-d...r/sdls6sb347sp
    doesnt include Harmonic Balancer, Camshaft, Timing Set, Intake and TB so..unless i over looked the assymbled..yeah..

    and...
    http://sdparts.com/details/gm-perfor...parts/19244097
    LS3...rated at 430 HP $6675
    probably has the 58X reluctor
    but i could get a conversion kit from Texas Speed or somewhere

    here a little Q&A
    http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...onversion.html
    Last edited by BashamWS6; 01-05-2011 at 08:27 PM. Reason: ls1tech

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    Yes thats the short block however they were carrying them as of late november but since they arent a regular stock item they arent listed on the website, you need to call them and just ask if they still have the ls6 long blocks for $3200

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    ok. do you know what heads/cam they come with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BashamWS6 View Post
    ok. do you know what heads/cam they come with?
    LS6 Heads and LS6 cam

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    that wouldnt that get me to the 425-450 rwhp would?

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    No, they generally hit 370 rwhp out of the crate with a tune and headers.
    You would have to stab in another cam to hit 400+ rwhp,,,which really wouldn't take much of a cam.

    The 2nd design LS6 cam specs at 207/218 and .551 lift with a 117 lsa. That's off the top of my head, but close.
    Very tame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BashamWS6 View Post
    that wouldnt that get me to the 425-450 rwhp would?
    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    No, they generally hit 370 rwhp out of the crate with a tune and headers.
    You would have to stab in another cam to hit 400+ rwhp,,,which really wouldn't take much of a cam.

    The 2nd design LS6 cam specs at 207/218 and .551 lift with a 117 lsa. That's off the top of my head, but close.
    Very tame.
    Mr Jones - I think it was something like that....

    WS6 - While the motor is out throw a cam in it before you install the motor. A little one like a 228R from TSP will get you 400+ hp and i guarantee you will have a blast with it

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    2002 Camaro Z/28 Pewter

    A full bolt on ls6 meaning headers, tune, underdrive pulley, p&P tb, and lid through an m6 will get you 385-400 all day. An auto would be closer to 370... Many people have done it in their c5 z06 which uses the ls6 stock and the vettes powertrain is a little more draining because of the IRS. Heres a few people who dynoed theirs. Honestly though an ls6 is plenty for your car and if you want later you can add a cam and make the desired 425-450 easily or do it before you drop the motor in the car.

    http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...une-today.html

    http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...tune-only.html

    http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...numbers-2.html
    http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...o-results.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    No, they generally hit 370 rwhp out of the crate with a tune and headers.
    You would have to stab in another cam to hit 400+ rwhp,,,which really wouldn't take much of a cam.

    The 2nd design LS6 cam specs at 207/218 and .551 lift with a 117 lsa. That's off the top of my head, but close.
    Very tame.
    with this cam spec:221/226 .565/.560 114lsa would you get closer to 400rwhp?

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    2002 Camaro Z/28 Pewter

    If the bolt on ls6's are making 385-400ish that cam would put you comfortably in te 400's probably like 410-420

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    An LS6 in an F-body with a headers will make 385-395rwhp (M6) on my dyno. The same setups with a Fast intake will clear 400rwhp consistently, coming in at 405-410rwhp. The crate LS6 from Scoggin Dickey is the best buy and makes a ton of power for a 'stock' engine.

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    408 or ls6....?
    Last edited by BashamWS6; 01-07-2011 at 07:49 PM.

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    2002 Camaro Z/28 Pewter

    ^^?? Hes talking about the ls6 with only bolt ons making 385-400whp

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