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10-19-2009, 09:13 PM #1
like 2 put a cam
what do u think of an ls6 set up
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10-19-2009, 09:41 PM #2
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10-19-2009, 10:28 PM #3
Go bigger you'll just wish you went bigger. What are your plans for her? DD?
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10-19-2009, 10:31 PM #4
Last edited by Z28Thunder; 10-19-2009 at 10:35 PM.
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10-19-2009, 10:41 PM #5
Not you thunder that was to the OP. 224 and 228 are really great proven street cams and have really good under the curve power
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10-19-2009, 10:49 PM #6
Hence why go bigger?? I have a 231/237 myself. But I am a track whore. If your looking for daily driving fun 224/228. If your looking for a low 12 or high 11 maybe even a mid 11 224/228. Thumper cams do not do well as a DD. Big cams even with the best tune are not great for DD. Can you make them idle well yes. Big cams suck at MPG.. The 224/228 will show very little change in mpg yet be a blast at the track.
Lets go back in the day.. John Raughammer ( for those old enough to remember) and what he did with a 222/222 mid 11's (1998 or 1999). Then John went 224/228 (2000) and was running 10's IIRC.. That was what 10,11 years ago...Last edited by Z28Thunder; 10-19-2009 at 11:15 PM.
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10-20-2009, 09:50 AM #7
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10-22-2009, 05:57 PM #8
man you guys know any 1 that i could go 2 put a cam in fresno
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10-22-2009, 10:46 PM #9
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10-23-2009, 12:27 PM #10
Your statements are somewhat true.
Fact: You can go bigger than a 224/228 and still retain great driveability, make a lot more power, still retain power under the curve, and not lose mpg. The 224/228 cam is a good cam, but it's dated technology/knowledge.
Also, you cannot use Raughammer as an example. His car was gutted, big converter and set up to run those #'s. A 224/228 isn't going to run even close to those #'s in a full weight street car, no way no how.
The newer lobe designs that have came out the last couple of years have enabled us engine builders to use bigger cams and still retain small cam characteristics. My custom 228/232 grind makes more power everywhere above 2800 rpms than a 224/228, drives the same around town, and doesn't "suck" mpg.
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10-25-2009, 04:50 PM #11
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10-25-2009, 07:14 PM #12
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I agree with a few statements in this thread so far. And I disagree with some of them.
There is no best overall cam for the LS1. Period. It varies greatly on set-up, gears, goals, street or drag, etc...
224/228 is a great cam, that is not dated technology. Just because it isn't huge, doesn't mean it isn't on aggressive lobes.
Before picking a cam...answer these questions.
1. Is the car going to be drag only? If not, how many street miles annually?
2. Gears?
3. Automatic or manual? (If auto, what stall speed?)
4. What is your definition of streetable (if the car sees street time)?
5. What heads?
6. What intake?
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10-30-2009, 08:32 AM #13224/228 is a great cam, that is not dated technology.
There are camshaft designs available now that can be cut much bigger, with more lift but softer lobes for better spring life and high rpm stability, all while providing the same driveability as a 224/228 cam AND making more power everywhere in the curve. So yes, sorry but the 224/228 XE-R is DATED technology. That doesn't mean it isn't good anymore. But just like an old trusty IBM laptop that still works, just because it still works doesn't mean it's "great" by today's standards.
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10-30-2009, 08:34 AM #14
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10-30-2009, 10:33 AM #15
Before picking a cam...answer these questions.
1. Is the car going to be drag only? If not, how many street miles annually?
Its my DD and this last year it saw about 10k but it should be riding less now with me using the other vehicles.
2. Gears?
4:10's
3. Automatic or manual? (If auto, what stall speed?)
Manual
4. What is your definition of streetable (if the car sees street time)?
I should be able to drive to school and work with a good highway cruise at about 70-80 mph and i rarely get stuck in traffic
5. What heads?
stock 241's
6. What intake?
stock ls6 too
7. Does gas mileage matter?
Hmmmm naaaa!
What would be a good cam for those answers?
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10-30-2009, 11:17 AM #16
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10-30-2009, 05:42 PM #17
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07-04-2010, 12:57 AM #18
well street and strip i got headers ory slp full intake kit custume tume btb sts stage 2 clulch what do all think i go wit h/c
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07-04-2010, 01:21 PM #19
How big are you willing to go Nick? Do you want a big choppy idle or a smooth stockish idle? If you can get ls6 heads for cheap they are a good step up. Or you can just get your 241's ported to flow better. I know a guy selling a cam for cheap. Its a Torquer V3 231/234
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