I need advise on top end build ??

**brada** · 04-27-2009, 10:00 PM

Ok!!
so i have a 2000 WS6 6 spd T/A and im looking for some solid advise on performance numbers and parts costs.
I'm looking for the best combo of
Cam
Heads
Induction (TB & intake)
Headers
Exhaust
Tuner

What makes the best reliable, power on pump gas?
All of you help would be much appreciated

**Johns00Z28** · 04-27-2009, 10:21 PM

Is this for a DD, drag strip, auto x? What kind of budget are you on?

**brada** · 04-28-2009, 06:51 AM

It would be a DD... Im not sure about a budget cause I cant find constant prices. Thats why i need someone to tell me what to expect and point me in the wright direction.
The goal is to do mechanical first, then suspension, wheels and brakes, then cosmetic.

**Johns00Z28** · 04-28-2009, 07:27 AM

For a DD anywhere between a 224-230 cams are pretty streetable and make good power. Can't go wrong w/ trickflow 215s or afr 205s if you have the money but if not a set of ls6 or prc heads are good too. You'd want to top all that off w/ a nice ported FAST 92 manifold w/ 92mm tb. Pacesetters are good for a budget or you can get stainless like kooks or ARH. As for a catback, you'll just have to listen to sound clips to determine which one sounds best to you.

**pjeff7** · 04-28-2009, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Johns00Z28

For a DD anywhere between a 224-230 cams are pretty streetable and make good power. Can't go wrong w/ trickflow 215s or afr 205s if you have the money but if not a set of ls6 or prc heads are good too. You'd want to top all that off w/ a nice ported FAST 92 manifold w/ 92mm tb. Pacesetters are good for a budget or you can get stainless like kooks or ARH. As for a catback, you'll just have to listen to sound clips to determine which one sounds best to you.

Agree, and to the OP, if money is getting alittle tight, you might be able to get away with an ls6 intake manifold, with that small of a cam (225ish). But if you have the money, you should spring for the FAST.

**Johns00Z28** · 04-28-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by pjeff7

Agree, and to the OP, if money is getting alittle tight, you might be able to get away with an ls6 intake manifold, with that small of a cam (225ish). But if you have the money, you should spring for the FAST.

Yeah the LS6 is going to help esp if you're on a tight budget, you should be able to pick a used one up for around $300. You'll want to upgrade your clutch with all that newfound power as well....I think the LS7 upgrade is a popular one.

**brada** · 04-28-2009, 09:18 PM

Awesome ! thanks for all the advice. Should I be concerned about a throttle body and a tuner ?

**Blackbird WS6** · 04-28-2009, 10:42 PM

yes you well need a tuner and a tb, and if you want to save some more money you can get the ebay stainless headers theres alot of people that run them just my .02

**Johns00Z28** · 04-28-2009, 10:45 PM

Yes you'll need a 92 mm tb to match the manifold and you most definitely would need your car to be tuned!!

**mark21742** · 04-29-2009, 12:23 AM

depending how much playing you want to do, a good tune will cost a couple hundred dollars, or if you have access to a laptop the Hptuner pro package is $649 and with the credits you get with it you can tune afew of your friends cars and make some of the price back. plus if you have questions about how to use hptuners lots of people on here can help

**Dr.Crash** · 04-29-2009, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by mark21742

depending how much playing you want to do, a good tune will cost a couple hundred dollars, or if you have access to a laptop the Hptuner pro package is $649 and with the credits you get with it you can tune afew of your friends cars and make some of the price back. plus if you have questions about how to use hptuners lots of people on here can help

i need help

There is so much to go through. sometimes feel like pulling my hair out

**Hi-Po** · 04-29-2009, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Johns00Z28

Yeah the LS6 is going to help esp if you're on a tight budget, you should be able to pick a used one up for around $300. You'll want to upgrade your clutch with all that newfound power as well....I think the LS7 upgrade is a popular one.

Do not do the LS7 clutch. Thats the weakest clutch over stock you could put in the car probably. SPEC 3, Textrilla, Mcliod(sp) are the only clutchs you shoul look at after heads cam install.

Originally Posted by mark21742

depending how much playing you want to do, a good tune will cost a couple hundred dollars, or if you have access to a laptop the Hptuner pro package is $649 and with the credits you get with it you can tune afew of your friends cars and make some of the price back. plus if you have questions about how to use hptuners lots of people on here can help

I already have over 200 bucks lined up for easy shit. CHanges gear ratios, tire sizes and deleting codes.

Originally Posted by Dr.Crash

i need help

There is so much to go through. sometimes feel like pulling my hair out

Pull your hair out? Im sometimes feel I need to sell my pistols so I dont have access to them.

**Johns00Z28** · 04-29-2009, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Hi-Po

Do not do the LS7 clutch. Thats the weakest clutch over stock you could put in the car probably. SPEC 3, Textrilla, Mcliod(sp) are the only clutchs you shoul look at after heads cam install.

Yeah because the LS7 is a weak platform.

**Hi-Po** · 04-29-2009, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Johns00Z28

Yeah because the LS7 is a weak platform.

I dont think I said that. But in comparison to the other 3.... Can you even compare?

**Johns00Z28** · 04-29-2009, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Hi-Po

I dont think I said that. But in comparison to the other 3.... Can you even compare?

Yes I'd say you could compare and the LS7 has good results.
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...ght=LS7+clutch
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...ght=LS7+clutch

**Dr.Crash** · 04-29-2009, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Johns00Z28

Yes I'd say you could compare and the LS7 has good results.
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...ght=LS7+clutch
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...ght=LS7+clutch

it was made for 505 HP , 500TQ. not 500RWHP

the spec stage 3
SPEC Clutch, Stage 3 (680 torque rating)
Application:
1998-2002 LS1 F-body
1997-2004 LS1/LS6 Corvette
2004-2006 LS1/LS2 GTO

straight off of the thunder site

so i would say thats a big diff

**brada** · 04-29-2009, 09:53 PM

Again, thanks for all the advice.. I'm gonna start getting a parts list together and hunt down some prices. I will try to get all the parts in one shot, that way i can just do one install session.

**Johns00Z28** · 04-30-2009, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Dr.Crash

it was made for 505 HP , 500TQ. not 500RWHP

the spec stage 3
SPEC Clutch, Stage 3 (680 torque rating)
Application:
1998-2002 LS1 F-body
1997-2004 LS1/LS6 Corvette
2004-2006 LS1/LS2 GTO

straight off of the thunder site

so i would say thats a big diff

I wonder how many bolt on and heads/cam LS1's are making 680lb ft of torque? I was giving my advice to him based on the power levels he was asking and based on other people's good results w/ that clutch. Now if he wanted FI or N20 that'd be a different story.

**Johns00Z28** · 04-30-2009, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by brada

Again, thanks for all the advice.. I'm gonna start getting a parts list together and hunt down some prices. I will try to get all the parts in one shot, that way i can just do one install session.

Good luck with that build man, once you install everything it's going to be a whole new animal!

**jmdgto** · 04-30-2009, 01:34 AM

i run this. afr 225 heads(62 cc big bore), fast 92 intake, 244/ 600+ lift cam, arh 1 7/8 lt, 46 pound injectors, 3 inch exhaust. this is on a 403 stroker. it is nick williams tuned.