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This is a discussion on head cam swap,rocker rebuild? within the Internal Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Ok heres the plan,I'm going to order my prc stage 2.5 heads along with the comp 212 218 high lift ...

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    head cam swap,rocker rebuild?

    Ok heres the plan,I'm going to order my prc stage 2.5 heads along with the comp 212 218 high lift cam. Should I have the rockers rebuilt for the new heads or can I use them as is? Car has 95xxx miles on it.

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    what are the cam specs? It should be fine to reuse them just torque them in right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpopham22 View Post
    Ok heres the plan,I'm going to order my prc stage 2.5 heads along with the comp 212 218 high lift cam. Should I have the rockers rebuilt for the new heads or can I use them as is? Car has 95xxx miles on it.
    Two things...

    1. That is a REALLY small cam...I would at least get a 228R cam to take advantage of those heads. Personally, I'd get a Torquer V2 cam...I loved mine with my Ported/Milled 5.3L heads.

    2. I'd get the Trunion bearing upgrade for your stock rockers. I got it for my stock rockers (77k) and I'll be using them on my 427 LS3.
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    Your stock rockers will be fine. I don't think you'll be happy with that cam. It is the same one I started out with and it was a total disapointment. I was changing it out for a Torquer V2 within 2 months and very happy with the outcome. When I added stage1 243 PRCs later it picked up 50 rwhp on the dyno. A TV2 with Stage 1 243 PRCs pulls hard thru its power band. Stage 2.5s might be overkill. The cam your talking about putting in is about the same as a stock Vette cam.
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    I know its a baby cam,that's what I want.(keeping stock converter till my tranny shits out) I'm gonna have to look up the trunion bearing upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpopham22 View Post
    I know its a baby cam,that's what I want.(keeping stock converter till my tranny shits out) I'm gonna have to look up the trunion bearing upgrade.
    A cam install is no small feat...you'll have to remove the radiator, water pump, crank pulley, front cover, oil pump, timing chain, remeasure the push rods for correct length, then get a retune for the new cam.

    I'm telling you now, putting that cam in is a waste of time and money. I 100% guarentee, you'll be VERY disappointed that you're time and effort got you sub 400rwhp numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1camino View Post
    A cam install is no small feat...you'll have to remove the radiator, water pump, crank pulley, front cover, oil pump, timing chain, remeasure the push rods for correct length, then get a retune for the new cam.

    I'm telling you now, putting that cam in is a waste of time and money. I 100% guarentee, you'll be VERY disappointed that you're time and effort got you sub 400rwhp numbers.
    Yes x1000. I have a 228r in mine now and wish I would have gone bigger. 228r should be good for a stock stall though if thats really what you want but if I had an auto a good stall would be my first mod.

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    I know its a major deal that's why nelson performance is doing it for me. I want a stock like cam with dd properties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpopham22 View Post
    I want a stock like cam with dd properties.
    This makes it sound like you shouldn't change out the cam at all.

    I had no problem driving my Torquer V.2 cam on the street. If you're worried about it not driving stock, then drop down to a 228R cam. If you want it to sound like stock, then get a high LSA, like 114 or 115. There will be no choppy-ness and you'll have the power you want.

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    listen to ls1camino. I have an m6 with a tsp 233/239 camshaft and my car is a DD. I have no problems driving it when it comes to the cam, now the clutch is a different story. I dont even know why you would even consider doing all that work and spending that money to put that cam in, thats like taking your ls1 cam out and putting a ls6 cam in. Waste of time and money imo, the smallest cam id go with a 228r ATLEAST! Especially if youre buying heads too.

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