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H/C/I Swap...pull motor or leave it?

This is a discussion on H/C/I Swap...pull motor or leave it? within the Internal Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; I have a friend (mechanic) helping me with my H/C/I swap in 4 weeks and he is insisting that it ...

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    H/C/I Swap...pull motor or leave it?

    I have a friend (mechanic) helping me with my H/C/I swap in 4 weeks and he is insisting that it will be easier if we pull the motor (out through the top), than if we were to leave it in the car. He is citing that torquing down the head bolts is a bitch with the motor in the car. I'm arguing that we shouldn't be doing 2-3 more hours of labor if the head bolts are the only concern.

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    PS: My friend is a big guy, so I can understand where he is coming from with the head bolts, but I can do them if he can't

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    My buddy (mechanic) says the same thing. Pull that bitch, then you can make sure everything is in order and makes the cam swap much easier. I vote for pull, thats what I'm doing.
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    Drop it out the bottom and clean everything up

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    When we are going to my H/C/I, my buddies (mechanics) and I will be taking it out also. Just seems easier to work on the engine while its on a stand then trying to lean over the fender of hours...Also if he has the cherry picker and the stand, why not?

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    Pulled mine from the bottom. So much easier to do it all. Can drop the motor in about 1 1/2 hours if you got a buddy with a lift like I do.

    Here is a thread of mine with a shit load of pics Pics of the H&C swap from tonight


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jays00ss View Post
    Pulled mine from the bottom. So much easier to do it all. Can drop the motor in about 1 1/2 hours if you got a buddy with a lift like I do.

    Here is a thread of mine with a shit load of pics Pics of the H&C swap from tonight


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    I'm debating on whether should do this...I tohught it was a good idea, but my friend donesn't think so. I do have access to a lift, so I don't wee where it would be a problem.

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    i pulled my motor in my drive way out the bottom. makes it much easier to work on. Its well worth the extra 3hrs labor (out and back in) to have the room and make sure things are right. But make sure the engine comes out the bottom, not the top!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1camino View Post
    I'm debating on whether should do this...I tohught it was a good idea, but my friend donesn't think so. I do have access to a lift, so I don't wee where it would be a problem.
    I've done them in car and dropping out the bottom. If ya can drop it go for it as its easier but at the sametime its not horrible to do it in car either. I've pulled an engine out the top before never again.
    If you can get your buddy to see the light I can give ya a hand if you guys are nervous about dropping it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1camino View Post
    I do have access to a lift, so I don't wee where it would be a problem.
    Since you have this going for you....


    PULL IT!!!

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    I started a thread exactly like this a while back. Yank that bitch

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    Drop it out the bottom if you have a lift to use.

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    i would never pull motor from top. drop it out is faster

    now for HCI i would do it in the car. its alot less work IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    i would never pull motor from top. drop it out is faster

    now for HCI i would do it in the car. its alot less work IMHO
    Pulling the motor out the top would be cake...if half our engine wasn't set under the cowl

    Out the bottom is the only way to go.

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    I will have to post pics, but it was pretty easy to drop out the bottom. I did all the work by myself with a cherry picker so having a lift, it shouldn't take you all that long. When you doing this, I may come down and lend a hand if you'd want, or I can just drink beer and be a cheerleader

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    here's how i did mine. took about 1.5-2hrs to get it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Crash View Post
    here's how i did mine. took about 1.5-2hrs to get it out.
    FTW! Did your cherry picker keep wanting to drag itself under the car?

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    ive done it using 2 jacks to get car up in air then use truck jack stands to support car then roll cradle out.

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    Pulling it from the top will be a PITA compared to dropping it out the bottom. I've helped pulling them from the top, I've done H/C swaps in car, and I've dropped the entire powertrain out the bottom. The H/C swap in car takes about the same amount of time as dropping it out the bottom and performing everything. If you've got a lift, drop it out and swap everything. Makes wrestling with the headers, head bolt torquing, ground straps, etc much easier. Depending upon the date and shop location I may be able to swing by and offer some help...

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    I'm in the process of doing a cam/intake upgrade and have pulled the heads, intake, cam, etc with the engine still in the car. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be...the worst part being trying to get the bottome bolts of the heads out as the headers were in the way most of the time. Right now, the new cam is in and I'm working on getting it all back together now.

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    Who has the link with instructions for dropping the motor out of the bottom?

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