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**blackhawk01** · 01-14-2008, 05:52 PM

Alright..so ive decided to go with Patriot heads (since they are the friendlyest for my budget)..

now..should I get

LS6 Style Heads

or

5.3/LS1 Heads

I am not running F/I..this is going to be an N/A setup. Ill be on a stock short block and am looking for around 440 RWHP when its all said and done.

what about lift and CFM? I know that all depends on the cam...does anybody have any opinions on what would be a descent setup for me?

**blackhawk01** · 01-14-2008, 05:55 PM

orrrr..does anyone have any ideas/experiences on decently priced head and cam packages that can maybe get me near the goal im looking for?

**99Ls1fever** · 01-14-2008, 07:23 PM

LS6 all the way, way better flow and doesnt screw your compression like the 5.3 does. I have the stage three's and i will never look back at the 5.3's again.

**blackhawk01** · 01-14-2008, 07:58 PM

what kind of power increase did you see from the LS6 heads? are they from patriot?

**99Ls1fever** · 01-14-2008, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by blackhawk01

what kind of power increase did you see from the LS6 heads? are they from patriot?

I also went with a bigger cam but my increase was 35 rwhp with the Patriots and then when I built my other engine that is a 408 i went with the patriot heads stage 3 for the lq9 heads and that was 50 rwhp gain so i have always had good luck with Patriot Heads

**blackhawk01** · 01-14-2008, 08:23 PM

soo. for me at a gross 440 RWHP goal...which heads could you recommend with what CFM and lift? Stage II right?

**99Ls1fever** · 01-15-2008, 09:02 AM

what are you setting at now rwhp? what cam are you running or thinking about running? heads we talked about Patriot Stage 2's, and intake?

**blackhawk01** · 01-15-2008, 09:16 AM

right now all I have is a Lid (w/ free mod), ported TB, street tune...

im not looking something too lopey..maybe somewhere around 112 LSA

**99Ls1fever** · 01-15-2008, 09:29 AM

Texas Speed Pefromance, have my favorite camshafts, but just with camshaft and heads and headers on my orginal stock ls1 I went from 336.8 rwhp to a gain of 135.6 rwhp putting me at 471rwhp. So, to awnser your question I went TSP Magic stick 4 camshaft, Patriot Stage 2 Heads, and QTP Longtube Headers and I easily obtained your goal Rwhp goal.

**blackhawk01** · 01-15-2008, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever

Texas Speed Pefromance, have my favorite camshafts, but just with camshaft and heads and headers on my orginal stock ls1 I went from 336.8 rwhp to a gain of 135.6 rwhp putting me at 471rwhp. So, to awnser your question I went TSP Magic stick 4 camshaft, Patriot Stage 2 Heads, and QTP Longtube Headers and I easily obtained your goal Rwhp goal.

....im liking this

**blackhawk01** · 01-15-2008, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever

Texas Speed Pefromance, have my favorite camshafts, but just with camshaft and heads and headers on my orginal stock ls1 I went from 336.8 rwhp to a gain of 135.6 rwhp putting me at 471rwhp. So, to awnser your question I went TSP Magic stick 4 camshaft, Patriot Stage 2 Heads, and QTP Longtube Headers and I easily obtained your goal Rwhp goal.

on your heads..did you go with 205cc or 250cc intake runners? what about lift? when you say stage 2 you mean the LS6 ported heads right? or 5.3 heads?

**99Ls1fever** · 01-15-2008, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by blackhawk01

on your heads..did you go with 205cc or 250cc intake runners? what about lift? when you say stage 2 you mean the LS6 ported heads right? or 5.3 heads?

They dont make a 250 cc they make 2.05, 2.08, 2.25 My stage 2 are the 2.08 with the 225 runner. and they are the LS6 Ported heads. I wouldn't even consider 5.3 heads. runners and valve diamter are diffent.

**blackhawk01** · 01-15-2008, 09:57 AM

ohhhh..okay..my bad on the 250cc part i meant 225 lol.

I think im looking at the right page..

http://www.patriot-performance.com/w...05234&DID=1225

**99Ls1fever** · 01-15-2008, 11:16 AM

Correctamngo!!! here is the cheapest price website for the Patriot heads I could ever find. Plus its Summit Racing, you can never go wrong with summit.

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http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch

**blackhawk01** · 01-15-2008, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever

Correctamngo!!! here is the cheapest price website for the Patriot heads I could ever find. Plus its Summit Racing, you can never go wrong with summit.

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http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch

so THESE would be your heads

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

**99Ls1fever** · 01-15-2008, 08:24 PM

yep those are the exact ones...

**chieftransam** · 01-16-2008, 03:11 AM

yeah man use the ls6 heads. I did but went with a much smaller cam and now I regret it but I still love it!

**99Ls1fever** · 01-16-2008, 05:37 PM

LS6 is the way to go....

**M-Ten** · 01-21-2008, 08:48 PM

but aren't those stage III heads that you have meant for bigger engines? Like 383, 402, 408?
At least that's what I was reading.. and that stage II or 2.5 or good for the ls1's?