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    got a question..should use search..but this one is different

    Alright..so ive decided to go with Patriot heads (since they are the friendlyest for my budget)..

    now..should I get

    LS6 Style Heads

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    5.3/LS1 Heads


    I am not running F/I..this is going to be an N/A setup. Ill be on a stock short block and am looking for around 440 RWHP when its all said and done.


    what about lift and CFM? I know that all depends on the cam...does anybody have any opinions on what would be a descent setup for me?

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    orrrr..does anyone have any ideas/experiences on decently priced head and cam packages that can maybe get me near the goal im looking for?

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    LS6 all the way, way better flow and doesnt screw your compression like the 5.3 does. I have the stage three's and i will never look back at the 5.3's again.

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    what kind of power increase did you see from the LS6 heads? are they from patriot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackhawk01 View Post
    what kind of power increase did you see from the LS6 heads? are they from patriot?
    I also went with a bigger cam but my increase was 35 rwhp with the Patriots and then when I built my other engine that is a 408 i went with the patriot heads stage 3 for the lq9 heads and that was 50 rwhp gain so i have always had good luck with Patriot Heads

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    soo. for me at a gross 440 RWHP goal...which heads could you recommend with what CFM and lift? Stage II right?

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    what are you setting at now rwhp? what cam are you running or thinking about running? heads we talked about Patriot Stage 2's, and intake?

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    right now all I have is a Lid (w/ free mod), ported TB, street tune...

    im not looking something too lopey..maybe somewhere around 112 LSA

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    Texas Speed Pefromance, have my favorite camshafts, but just with camshaft and heads and headers on my orginal stock ls1 I went from 336.8 rwhp to a gain of 135.6 rwhp putting me at 471rwhp. So, to awnser your question I went TSP Magic stick 4 camshaft, Patriot Stage 2 Heads, and QTP Longtube Headers and I easily obtained your goal Rwhp goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever View Post
    Texas Speed Pefromance, have my favorite camshafts, but just with camshaft and heads and headers on my orginal stock ls1 I went from 336.8 rwhp to a gain of 135.6 rwhp putting me at 471rwhp. So, to awnser your question I went TSP Magic stick 4 camshaft, Patriot Stage 2 Heads, and QTP Longtube Headers and I easily obtained your goal Rwhp goal.
    ....im liking this

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever View Post
    Texas Speed Pefromance, have my favorite camshafts, but just with camshaft and heads and headers on my orginal stock ls1 I went from 336.8 rwhp to a gain of 135.6 rwhp putting me at 471rwhp. So, to awnser your question I went TSP Magic stick 4 camshaft, Patriot Stage 2 Heads, and QTP Longtube Headers and I easily obtained your goal Rwhp goal.
    on your heads..did you go with 205cc or 250cc intake runners? what about lift? when you say stage 2 you mean the LS6 ported heads right? or 5.3 heads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackhawk01 View Post
    on your heads..did you go with 205cc or 250cc intake runners? what about lift? when you say stage 2 you mean the LS6 ported heads right? or 5.3 heads?
    They dont make a 250 cc they make 2.05, 2.08, 2.25 My stage 2 are the 2.08 with the 225 runner. and they are the LS6 Ported heads. I wouldn't even consider 5.3 heads. runners and valve diamter are diffent.

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    ohhhh..okay..my bad on the 250cc part i meant 225 lol.

    I think im looking at the right page..

    http://www.patriot-performance.com/w...05234&DID=1225

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    Correctamngo!!! here is the cheapest price website for the Patriot heads I could ever find. Plus its Summit Racing, you can never go wrong with summit..
    http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever View Post
    Correctamngo!!! here is the cheapest price website for the Patriot heads I could ever find. Plus its Summit Racing, you can never go wrong with summit..
    http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=KeywordSearch
    so THESE would be your heads

    http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

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    yep those are the exact ones...

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    yeah man use the ls6 heads. I did but went with a much smaller cam and now I regret it but I still love it!

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    LS6 is the way to go....

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    but aren't those stage III heads that you have meant for bigger engines? Like 383, 402, 408?
    At least that's what I was reading.. and that stage II or 2.5 or good for the ls1's?

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    right... stage III for bigger cubes and stage II or 2.5 for ls1's.

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