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This is a discussion on Do Cam Install Myself or Pay Shop within the Internal Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by keliente hmm then $350 does sound like a bit much... What do you think would be a ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by keliente
    hmm then $350 does sound like a bit much...
    What do you think would be a reasonable price range?

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    Hell free is the best price I have heard. Well just the cost of beer to cover the labor should work. We can start Friday night and we should be done wither that night or we can finish it Saturday to have you riding. SHouldn't be too much trouble. Can be done in about 8-10 hours. SO long as nothing bad happens.

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    Yea, you can't beat beer currency

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    For just a cam? Less than $250. If you're only changing the cam and nothing else it is a 5 hour job at the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keliente
    For just a cam? Less than $250. If you're only changing the cam and nothing else it is a 5 hour job at the most.
    That is true cause valve springs take 2-3 hours.

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    I seem to remember that the LSx series of engines have a locking mechanism that can hold the lifters in place to allow a cam swap without removing the intake or any of the rest of the valvetrain. You still have to get a good portion of the cooling system out of the way.

    $350? Its worth both your time and money to know how to do this yourself. Get a book for $17.95, even less at Amazon.

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    Yea, you can't beat beer currency
    Beer currency rocks!!! Now, if you can bring the Lakergirls, I would really be impressed. Hell, I will do a frame off restomod for free! The Lakergirls would have to stay with me, of course. That is non-negotiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMiracle
    I seem to remember that the LSx series of engines have a locking mechanism that can hold the lifters in place to allow a cam swap without removing the intake or any of the rest of the valvetrain. You still have to get a good portion of the cooling system out of the way.

    $350? Its worth both your time and money to know how to do this yourself. Get a book for $17.95, even less at Amazon.
    That is true but it doesn't always work. I dropped on of mine when I done the swap. High mileage motors are bad about that. They make a tool to help keep them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMiracle
    I seem to remember that the LSx series of engines have a locking mechanism that can hold the lifters in place to allow a cam swap without removing the intake or any of the rest of the valvetrain. You still have to get a good portion of the cooling system out of the way.
    Tis a good idea to remove the rockers and take the pushrods out so there is nothing sitting on the lifter. After that, give the cam a few spins and pray your lifters stay up. Or get a tool and be safe.

    And the intake does not have to come off for cam/valvetrain stuff.

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    Alright the cam came in with some pretty big specs...

    Current SLP Cam 234/228 .576/.571 113LSA

    Custom Cam 230/236 .612/.590 114LSA

    Would you drive on it untuned from Atlanta to Indianapolis? Take her to the strip? I have the feeling after looking at the rest of the specs It might be pretty lean over the dyno of my current cam

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadSeason
    Alright the cam came in with some pretty big specs...

    Current SLP Cam 234/228 .576/.571 113LSA

    Custom Cam 230/236 .612/.590 114LSA

    Would you drive on it untuned from Atlanta to Indianapolis? Take her to the strip? I have the feeling after looking at the rest of the specs It might be pretty lean over the dyno of my current cam
    Why does it have to drive so far without a tune?

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    A Bunch of us are going down to Atlanta for the Year One Experience, 3 days of cars, drags, and Auto X... That's where we'd swap the cam in since I don't have all the tools or workspace here at my apt, would be a fun night if it could run decent on my old cam's dyno tune

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadSeason
    A Bunch of us are going down to Atlanta for the Year One Experience, 3 days of cars, drags, and Auto X... That's where we'd swap the cam in since I don't have all the tools or workspace here at my apt, would be a fun night if it could run decent on my old cam's dyno tune
    Oh. If you want to make a pitstop in Charlotte (3-4 hrs from ATL) I can tune it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadSeason
    Current SLP Cam 234/228 .576/.571 113LSA
    Custom Cam 230/236 .612/.590 114LSA

    Would you drive on it untuned from Atlanta to Indianapolis? Take her to the strip? I have the feeling after looking at the rest of the specs It might be pretty lean over the dyno of my current cam
    You are really only talking about a difference of 4 degrees duration on the intake side, and you are going wider on the lobe separation angle. I would think the difference is kinda insignificant. If you can drive it part throttle from Atlanta to Indy, it think the PCM will compensate for it no problem. I would however resist the temptation to flog it at the strip or on the trip home without tuning. If you were logging data and could at least see what the A/F ratio is, that would be ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammertime
    You are really only talking about a difference of 4 degrees duration on the intake side, and you are going wider on the lobe separation angle. I would think the difference is kinda insignificant. If you can drive it part throttle from Atlanta to Indy, it think the PCM will compensate for it no problem. I would however resist the temptation to flog it at the strip or on the trip home without tuning. If you were logging data and could at least see what the A/F ratio is, that would be ideal.
    Right, but I'm also adding a 90mm LSX. So it will be lean, how bad I'm unsure. I think I might go ahead with it there anyway, they have a chassis dyno every day going on so I can at least get a read out, maybe find a tuner to help me out anyway. I don't have the time to go out of my way to hit up NC on my way back either.

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    The opening and closing of the valves is also much greater than the SLP cam

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    Throttle body and intake will make a bigger difference at WOT, but I would think the MAF will read any additional airflow at part throttle and the PCM will compensate.

    Getting help/tuned while you are there is also a good idea.

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