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This is a discussion on cam vs. stall within the Internal Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; I'm really thinking about upgrading to a 228 cam from my 220/224 .570/580 112lsa cam. right now I'm running a ...

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    cam vs. stall

    I'm really thinking about upgrading to a 228 cam from my 220/224 .570/580 112lsa cam. right now I'm running a 3000 rpm stall and was wondering if I need to jump up to a 3,600 stall to get the most out of the cam.
    I already have all supporting mods and ported/ polished 241 heads.
    any guess on power gains from my current cam to a 228?
    also what advantages/ disadvantages of going with a 112 or 114lsa
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    Holy crap, who vandalized your car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99_Z28 View Post
    Holy crap, who vandalized your car?
    lol thanks.
    what all do you have done to your car, that is an impressive 1/4 mile time

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    Nothing much, car was built with used recycled parts. Mac mids, ory, ls6 intake, hotcam, 3500 stall, m/t dr and alot of weight reduction (3100lbs). No times with the 100 shot yet. And to answer your question, I would just leave that cam in and go with a bigger stall 3800-4000.

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    I would think you would see a very nice improvment with a larger stall. Of course, if you can afford both, do it Mark

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    Yeah why not try the bigger stall, 3800-4000 stall and see how that works. If it's not enough then at least you have the bigger stall you'll need anyways for that bigger cam.

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    You'll see what 15rwhp at peak horsepower at most? Find a dyno and see what you make already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    You'll see what 15rwhp at peak horsepower at most? Find a dyno and see what you make already.
    that's what I don't want lol if I make a change I want it to be very noticable

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    that's what I don't want lol if I make a change I want it to be very noticable
    Get those heads cnc'd and milled, if you did the port and polish yourself you know it will make a much bigger power gain than a slightly bigger cam. It will cost more too, decisions decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    Get those heads cnc'd and milled, if you did the port and polish yourself you know it will make a much bigger power gain than a slightly bigger cam. It will cost more too, decisions decisions.
    I should have milled them when I had them off the last time right now its my DD, but after I get the 87 pulsar ( can you say pimpin) lol on the road the goat will be my play toy.....then I can afford to have it down for a week or two while the heads are at the shop getting milled and 5 angle valve job

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    Does it look anything like this big pimp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    Does it look anything like this big pimp?
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    lol thank God no

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    Hey mark, I agree about doin a good set of heads or if you don't wan't to pull
    heads again there's a guy on TECH called PREDITOR Z that has speced a cam
    called "EL TORRO" and it's makin power down low and up top!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonRunX View Post
    Im talkink about the catcam inlet cam.

    other then that the engine is stock, what crank numbers can I expect?

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    Wat?

    OP. Stick with the stall and save up for the headwork and a much larger cam IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonRunX View Post
    Im talkink about the catcam inlet cam.

    other then that the engine is stock, what crank numbers can I expect?

    thanks.
    what are the specs on that cam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshieDoom View Post
    Wat?

    OP. Stick with the stall and save up for the headwork and a much larger cam IMO.
    that what I'm thinking of doing. the heads willbe cheap, all I have to do is get them milled, I've allready done all the other work to them.
    think with a 4,000 stall and say a 235/243 .591/.591 would make me happy with the heads milled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    that what I'm thinking of doing. the heads willbe cheap, all I have to do is get them milled, I've allready done all the other work to them.
    think with a 4,000 stall and say a 235/243 .591/.591 would make me happy with the heads milled?
    Jeez mark, your going from one extreme to the other arnt ya?

    220/220 cam with a mild 3000 stall.

    235/243 cam with a 4000 stall. No doubt its gonna be a change! That will be night and day. I think youll be happy if thats what your looking for. Car will be a rocket. But it will be a 180 from where your at now What LSA you thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Po View Post
    Jeez mark, your going from one extreme to the other arnt ya?

    220/220 cam with a mild 3000 stall.

    235/243 cam with a 4000 stall. No doubt its gonna be a change! That will be night and day. I think youll be happy if thats what your looking for. Car will be a rocket. But it will be a 180 from where your at now What LSA you thinking?
    I can get it on a 112,114 or 116lsa. this won't be till this winter when the goat will become my weekend toy and I'll be driving the nissan pulsar as my DD. that way I'll save on gas and keep thr mileage down.
    plus if I go this route I'll drop a 92/92 intake and tb on it

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    What's the name of that cam? Or is that a custom cam?

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    Hey mark, you could just put a nice N2 system w/150 shot & window switch!!
    will be just as fast & won't hurt the motor any more than putting a cam in that
    you have to spin the motor about 8000 rpm's to get max power out of!!!!

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