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    Hay guys Iíve been debating on what camshaft I should get I have a 02 SS Camaro with LT headers, MAF sensor, slp lid. I have been looking at the MS3 and Texas Speed's 233/239. I would like to get about 400 to the wheels, but this is also my daily driver so I do not want anything to radical. I have heard that MS3 is more of a top end cam that does not offer much torque, so I want something that is an all around performer, what do you guys think.

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    I'd say for what your looking to do the Ms3 is too big and you would be much happier with a smaller cam on the street.
    most say a 228 is about the biggest all around street performer with decent street manners for a DD.
    I'm running a 220/224 112lsa choppy idle with very good street manners.....a 228 should be good for about 15 more rwhp than mine.
    are you an M6 or A4? if your an auto you'll need a stall
    to get the most out of a cam I'd look into getting heads, or even port, polish and have your stock heads milled.......that combo sould make you happy

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    im running the texas speed torquer 2 in my DD and i am more than pleased with the drivability and the power....but your gunna need a tune for sure drove my car untuned with the cam for 11 miles and wanted to shoot myself it was a bitch to drive.....but after the tune smooth sailing

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    Z28 boy how much more hp did you get after your cam swap and about how much mpg did you lose?

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    i have the same cam as Z28boy2000 and put down 403 hp with it but i dont know what i lost in mpg as i dont drive my car that much

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01 T/A View Post
    i have the same cam as Z28boy2000 and put down 403 hp with it but i dont know what i lost in mpg as i dont drive my car that much
    What other mods and on what dino?

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    p&p tb, tsp headers and ory, underdrive pully, magnaflow cat back, lid, and custom tune, 10.4 mm wires. and it was on a dynojet.
    Last edited by 0verkill; 06-13-2009 at 12:19 PM.

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    Ok cool i think i am going to buy the torquer 2 it seems like a good cam from what ive read online, I'm probably going to buy the double valve springs to. Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meathammer View Post
    Ok cool i think i am going to buy the torquer 2 it seems like a good cam from what ive read online, I'm probably going to buy the double valve springs to. Thanks guys.
    don't forget an oil pump, or atleast a new O-ring for your old one!

    If you plan on changing your valve springs on the car, get one of the hand crank spring compressers and cut the crank wheel off of it, then take a 3/8" drive 15mm socket, slide it over the shaft and tack weld it in place.....this will make it alot easier to get to the rear valve springs

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    Quote Originally Posted by meathammer View Post
    Z28 boy how much more hp did you get after your cam swap and about how much mpg did you lose?
    i picked up about 55hp with the torquer...as far as gas milage it went down a bit but it all depends on how your going to be driving...under a normal crusing tank of gas i get roughly 220 miles to a tank of gas...but with a tank used to race around town ect ill be getting 185-190 to a tank.

    the power is amazing from the cam...if you do your research you'll find that almost everyone with the torquer loves the cam

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    i didnt go with the double springs....i called TSP and they told me that the torquer does not need the double springs...i bought the cam package from them and everything was perfect

    Torquer V2
    COMP 918 Springs
    Heavy Duty LS6 Ported Oil Pump
    Gasket Kit
    Double Roller Timing Chain
    TSP Hardend 7.400 Rods
    Fluids (Oil, Dex-Cool, ect)

    thats most of what you'll need for parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28boy2000 View Post
    i didnt go with the double springs....i called TSP and they told me that the torquer does not need the double springs...i bought the cam package from them and everything was perfect

    Torquer V2
    COMP 918 Springs
    Heavy Duty LS6 Ported Oil Pump
    Gasket Kit
    Double Roller Timing Chain
    TSP Hardend 7.400 Rods
    Fluids (Oil, Dex-Cool, ect)

    thats most of what you'll need for parts
    i also got the kit from them but i did get the double springs and a singal timeing chain.

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    228R from TSP on a 113.
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    I just ordered Torquer V2, the COMP 918 Springs, and the hardened rods, i probably will buy the new timing chain but do you guys think i really need to get a new oil pump will im there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meathammer View Post
    I just ordered Torquer V2, the COMP 918 Springs, and the hardened rods, i probably will buy the new timing chain but do you guys think i really need to get a new oil pump will im there?
    I didnt replace mine. It only had 15,000 miles on it and had great pressure. Its an LS6. If you have the coin, yes most certainly buy a ported LS6 of melling. Timing chain is a must. LS2.

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    like hi-po sead if you have the coin you should get the ported oil pump as you will be down to it any way. same goes for a ud pully. its a good idea to do the chain as so i got the good ls1 chain set tsp has its like $85.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01 T/A View Post
    like hi-po sead if you have the coin you should get the ported oil pump as you will be down to it any way. same goes for a ud pully. its a good idea to do the chain as so i got the good ls2 chain set tsp has its like $85.
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    no it was right ls1 but it is $75 i was going to do the ls2 chain but they pointed to this one so i just sead ok
    http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...d=985&catid=53

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    LS2 is visibly thicker,wider then a LS1. Go with LS2 at the least.

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    if your not going with a set like what i got you do want to get the ls2 chain for sure

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