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    To build or not to build

    Hey Guys and Gals,

    I recently broke my 2000 SS M6 racing another Camaro. Stats about my car as of now. Everything in engine/tranny, rear, and exhaust is stock. They have close to 90k miles on them. I currently have a Blackwing airlid on it, subframe connects, a strutower brace, and an MGW short throw shifter. Originally I had wrist pin noise but now I have the dreaded bottom end noise :'( I was wondering if it makes sense to rip it all apart and build it up or just sell it how it is. Recently bought the car and this shit happened. My dad is telling me to just cut it and take a loss. My question is, how much does bottom end noise take off the value of a car(general ball park if possible). How much would it be to build rotating assembly and cam it and do it up(general ballpark)?


    Keep in mind that I would be having a shop do all the work unfortunatelly.


    It's a decision I can't seem to make....such a crappy situation.

    BTW this was my DD and now I'm driving a 97 camary with 400k on the clock

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    Mine just needs some tlc cosmetically on the interior seats and belts replaced

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    I want a m6

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    If u like the car, if it looks good and everything. Fix it.
    Buy a used motor, port the heads, get a cam. You'll be happy.
    Or if u got the money. Rebuild the engine with good parts,
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    Sure is not going to be cheap.

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    I would simply drop a short block in it if they are still available. How is your oil pressure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    I would simply drop a short block in it if they are still available. How is your oil pressure?
    As far as I know the oil pressure was good. How much would a short block cost me?

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    These prices are taken from hawks for a full drop in crate engine ls1 $6171 ls6 $6566 ls3 $8855. An ls3 would require aditional parts for the swap but not sure on exactly what. Also you could talk to texas speed for under $4000 you can get a short block from them and reuse you heads and such or get a long block for $6740. I would call Texas speed if I was you and talk to them to see what all they would recomend, pluse see if there are any speed shops around and ask them what they think.

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    Going to be hard to sell if it has issues unless you are willing to take a hit on it.
    Fixing it is more money too. Tough call.

    You have to decide if you really want to keep it, because by the time you go through the expense of an engine you generally won't get that money back out of it if you sell, especially a 4th gen F-body this day and age.

    I'd shop around for either a used low mile replacement engine or possibly a rebuilt short block from any number of suppliers like Jeff mentioned.
    Personally, I like the 6.0 truck engines. They can be found in the $1,000-$1500 range complete with relatively low miles. Easy swap with just a couple of extension harnesses for the knock and cam sensor.

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    Or you can just buy my car for 4600 and have everything you need, for less than a motor will cost you, 4600 if you pick it up, 5000 if I deliver, give or take a few depending on your location

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    like previously stated a knocking engine is hard to sell. After hearing 3,4,5,8k for engines, 4600$ for new car, i would buy a forged rotating assy and get it in the car about 3k-3500$ and be happy. i just spent 2500 on a callies forged 383cid rotating assembly. the post about the hard decision to build or sell leads me to believe your fond of it. if need be take out a small loan and make it better than it was.

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    don't even bother to rebuild the engine...

    buy a 402 block and build that up on a budget build...

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    I lean towards Spaz's idea. I personally like the truck blocks, and they can be built for cheap with a stroker assembly. Start with an advantageous 4" bore, and a cast iron block can be bored multiple times.
    To make things even easier, Texas Speed offers a short block 402/408 based off of what I mentioned, assembled and ready to go fairly cheap ($4000 range). Throw the heads and cam of your choice at it and you can easily have a 500hp engine with gobs of torque. It's really the best bang for your buck when you look at other crate engines out there. The $3400 LS6 crate engines seem to be long gone now.

    The LQ4/LQ9 based stroker is the route I'm taking when the time comes since the LS6 isn't available.

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