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    Best N/A head cam package?

    Would like to go with afr heads, dont know about cam yet with full bolt ons, which head and cam should I go with to put my 01 WS6 in the 430-450 range daily driver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vipVEGAS View Post
    Would like to go with afr heads, dont know about cam yet with full bolt ons, which head and cam should I go with to put my 01 WS6 in the 430-450 range daily driver?


    I would find a nice 230 range cam, with .585 or .595 lift and a 110-111lsa and a set of stage 3 heads and a good dyno tune.



    cam only, im putting out 420+ hp with a 228/232/.595 - 110lsa cam...stock heads.

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    The truth is AFR are good but I have Patiort proformance and I have the same amount of RWHP as you are looking for but I got to put $1000 back in my pocket and I got roller rockers out of the deal too. Just food for thought


    Quote Originally Posted by MISFIT View Post
    I would find a nice 230 range cam, with .585 or .595 lift and a 110-111lsa and a set of stage 3 heads and a good dyno tune.



    cam only, im putting out 420+ hp with a 228/232/.595 - 110lsa cam...stock heads.

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    I am open to the patriot head have a friend with them and Im impressed, but everyone here seems to say afr.

    What is your setup, which head by patriot and what cam

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    Best Patriot head for you budget wise would be the LS6 style Stage 2.
    Stage 3 is for larger bore motors.

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    what about cam, I want it to be a daily driver, dont want much of an idle issue, whats the best bet? but want a good lope with max power

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    228/228 59x/59x 114
    For a daily...maybe even just the 224/224.

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    should I go trex or open to any?

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    TRex isn't going to be that daily driver friendly.
    Check this one out...

    http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=167&catid=44

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    I have a 232/234 .595.598 on a 112 and I would call it very DD friendly, here's a cold start clip before the tune. I'll get a new clip since the tune with cold start and warm idle if you want.

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    is the 112 lobe seperation to much, would it create bad idle problems

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    what kinda hp did your recieve

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    ONEBADZZ cam sounds awesome do you have heads, who is your cam made by? what kind of power range?

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    Low LSA doesnt give a BAD idle. LSA changes the lobe seperation, which moves the centerline in the intake and exhaust lobes. a low LSA gives more power down low and broadens the power band. it also creates more of a vacume in the intake, making the idle "lopey" its not a bad thing, some people like the sound....

    more of an LSA, like 114-116 lowers the power level, reduces the vacume at idle, and will give less low end torque and power, and your powerband will lower.


    sometimes nitrous cams have a high LSA for this very reason....

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    pm'd you back vipvegas

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    head/cam

    I've been researching head/cam combo's, ran across what seems to be a decent deal with Patriot heads and cam from a company in Calif. Redline Perfomance Engineering. Anybody have any dealings with them?

    It really seems that for a street vehicle Patriot heads with a good cam(which one?)stage II 11:1CR for us poor guys might be the best way to go. Texas Speed also has what appears to be a good package using Patriot heads.

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    responded to your pm also

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    I gotta Torquer v2 Cam....just like that other guy in the vid....sounds just like that....Mines not to driver friendly......but it would be better if i had a better tune to it....

    Honestly drivability aint too bad....U just gotta get used to it.....Its kinda fun knowing sometimes that u know ur car and no one else really knows how to drive it......also no one can steal it lol without it stalling out ! haha well at least mine....i got a shitty tune

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    Get a good tune and it will run sooo smooth. I had problems before the tune, but afterwards it runs very smooth. An M6 will run even better than our autos

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    installing a head and cam, and then running around untuned, is just asking for your shit to blowup. Why do so many people take this chance? especially after a cam install.....

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