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  • AFR Mongoose 76cc 205 bare $1900

    8 28.57%
  • AFR Mongoose 66cc 205 bare $1900

    8 28.57%
  • Patriot Predator 205 (2.05/1.60/59cc-72cc) 3.905-4.030 bore $1795

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  • Some other brand like ET Performance or DART or other... $xxxx

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The Best Heads?!?

This is a discussion on The Best Heads?!? within the Internal Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by TheChad1371 if i only had some extra cash money man id be buying heads, and cam...any suggestions ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChad1371 View Post
    if i only had some extra cash money man id be buying heads, and cam...any suggestions for heads and cam for my 2000 ws6 all stock excect exhaust?
    I would go full bold on before you do head/cam package. That way you will get the most out of it when you do get it. Get a lid, long tubes, pulleys, intake manifold, TB, etc.

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    I see some are leaning to other in the poll... What other heads are people suggesting that will give me under the curve performance that arent AFR? and why?

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    yea i was checkin out a slp lid, wanna go with the cold air package i think. but whats the differance between a long tube and shorty?

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    Long tubes will give you a better top end. But i also herd some where that shorties are just a waste of money on LS1s. Cant remember where. Plus long tubes will sound sooo much more bad ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew rs View Post
    Long tubes will give you a better top end. But i also herd some where that shorties are just a waste of money on LS1s. Cant remember where. Plus long tubes will sound sooo much more bad ass.
    Shorties are a waste of money, your paying all that money to replace you stock shorties with aftermarket shorties that dont flow much better...Waste of money go with LTs

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    i was kinda thinkin the same after i posted that and went to look at the differences on both...damn i need to hit the lottery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChad1371 View Post
    i was kinda thinkin the same after i posted that and went to look at the differences on both...damn i need to hit the lottery.
    Dont we all... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeeD4SpeeD View Post
    I see some are leaning to other in the poll... What other heads are people suggesting that will give me under the curve performance that arent AFR? and why?
    out of all the f body owners i know locally, i only know of one who ISNT using AFR heads and he said he bought the patriot stage 3 because he got them cheaper than AFR. Patriots are a good brand, possibly look into a similar chamber size in those....but to also concur with everyone else, AFR may be the best heads for the money! i

    btw i enjoy reading your threads, you seem like a badass who is willing to go for broke in the name of speed. Keep it up man! Beauty of a car btw...

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew rs View Post
    Long tubes will give you a better top end. But i also herd some where that shorties are just a waste of money on LS1s. Cant remember where. Plus long tubes will sound sooo much more bad ass.
    shorties are used if clearance is a huge pitfall, and that can be the only reason....mid tubes are at the very least what you should buy in the way of headers, but as you said, longtubes will yield the most gains throughout...

    pacesetter lts are inexpensive and good quality, if i wanted to pay more i would buy kooks. heard nothing but good things....

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    hmm, thanks for the info, i learn something new on this forum everyday! and the wife says its dumb and useless....

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    Yes the AFR's are the way to go.Stay with the 66's unless you plan on BIG bottle or blower. We build many AFRs and if I was you I would buy them bare and have a local good race machine shop assemble them.
    When you buy them complete you must remember they are assem. with profit in mind NOT all out performance.
    Just to give you an example the spring pocket will have a shim under it.... We don't run ANY alum. head like that. We disassem. the new heads and cut the spring pocket for a spring cup. That way there is something to locate the spring from wearing into the head not to mention walking around on the base.
    Don't be afraid of the bottle!!! Be afraid of your tune!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by secondgearscratch View Post
    out of all the f body owners i know locally, i only know of one who ISNT using AFR heads and he said he bought the patriot stage 3 because he got them cheaper than AFR. Patriots are a good brand, possibly look into a similar chamber size in those....but to also concur with everyone else, AFR may be the best heads for the money! i

    btw i enjoy reading your threads, you seem like a badass who is willing to go for broke in the name of speed. Keep it up man! Beauty of a car btw...
    Thanks for the info man i think im gunna go with the AFR's but now i noticed on the thunder racing site that they have a 62cc chambers so now which on do i get 62-66 shit too many choices lol...

    And thanks man i appriciate the compliment, i just love my speed and if i have the money to turn my car into a missle then you bet your ass i'm going to get the best performance money can buy with out having to sell blood to raise extra cash lolol (i probably would go broke in the name of speed and adrenaline hehe) but my car is everything, means more then my lady to me cuz it's always there when i need it, never talks back, is always worth the money i put into it and will always give me a consistant wild ride lolol!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    Yes the AFR's are the way to go.Stay with the 66's unless you plan on BIG bottle or blower. We build many AFRs and if I was you I would buy them bare and have a local good race machine shop assemble them.
    When you buy them complete you must remember they are assem. with profit in mind NOT all out performance.
    Just to give you an example the spring pocket will have a shim under it.... We don't run ANY alum. head like that. We disassem. the new heads and cut the spring pocket for a spring cup. That way there is something to locate the spring from wearing into the head not to mention walking around on the base.
    Go with the AFR 66cc instead of 62cc cuz like i just posted i just found 62cc and it's frigen driving me nuts!!! Everytime i think im good 2 go something else pops up that raises question....

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    Who ever assem. the heads can make the chamber what ever size you want.I could take that much off in 2 passes on the mill table. That 4cc is not going to make a huge difference.
    The key to getting max power is to get the piston quench area correct. With the right thickness headgasket for your combo.
    Depending on what cam you run will also determine what gas you'll be able to get away with. A cam with big overlap "bleeds" off cyclinder pressure at low rpm thats how you can get away with running high comp. on pump gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    Who ever assem. the heads can make the chamber what ever size you want.I could take that much off in 2 passes on the mill table. That 4cc is not going to make a huge difference.
    The key to getting max power is to get the piston quench area correct. With the right thickness headgasket for your combo.
    Depending on what cam you run will also determine what gas you'll be able to get away with. A cam with big overlap "bleeds" off cyclinder pressure at low rpm thats how you can get away with running high comp. on pump gas.
    I understand that i just dont wanna spend un nessary money on milling when i could get the right size chambers for my cam right from the factory... My cam is a TR 232/242 595./602. 112LSA so for that cam i guess the 66cc chambers would be best?

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    Anyone heard anything about the thunder racing heads??? And how would they stack up verus the AFR's im gunna buy???

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    And should i get the AFR 205cc 66cc or the 205cc 62cc???

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
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    Wouldnt bigger 66cc be better? Or wait then what would be the point of milling?

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    you want smaller chambers to raise compression.

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