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    400+ cam only cars...

    i have a 99 formula M6 car..right now she is getting forged goodies and she has every upgrade i can get right now w/ the acception of under drive pulley, and expensive intake set up...everything else is done...
    i am currently running a lunati 234/236 .050 .544/.545 112 lsa cam...i made 380 rwhp and 350 tq when tuned and dynod...i am looking for the 415+ hp and more torque from a cam only set up...and since everybody is going to ask about my mods...i will list ahead of time...

    slp lid, SLP cool air pak, K&N filter(s), smooth bellow, 80 mm BBK TB, LS6 intake, MSD wires, NGK Plugs, 853 heads( 3 angle valve job, new locks, guides, retainers) comp hardened pushrods, crane springs .650 lift,crane lifters, ported LS6 oil pump,dbl roller timing chain,polished crank, mahle forged pistons, eagle forged H beam rods, SLP Lt's, 3" ORY loudmouth w/ tips, no cats, no converters...i think that's it...and since suspention stuff doesnt really count on this..i will leave it out..

    anyways like i said i am looking for that 415-430 hp cam only #'s

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    Quote Originally Posted by QtrWhore View Post
    i have a 99 formula M6 car..right now she is getting forged goodies and she has every upgrade i can get right now w/ the acception of under drive pulley, and expensive intake set up...everything else is done...
    i am currently running a lunati 234/236 .050 .544/.545 112 lsa cam...i made 380 rwhp and 350 tq when tuned and dynod...i am looking for the 415+ hp and more torque from a cam only set up...and since everybody is going to ask about my mods...i will list ahead of time...

    slp lid, SLP cool air pak, K&N filter(s), smooth bellow, 80 mm BBK TB, LS6 intake, MSD wires, NGK Plugs, 853 heads( 3 angle valve job, new locks, guides, retainers) comp hardened pushrods, crane springs .650 lift,crane lifters, ported LS6 oil pump,dbl roller timing chain,polished crank, mahle forged pistons, eagle forged H beam rods, SLP Lt's, 3" ORY loudmouth w/ tips, no cats, no converters...i think that's it...and since suspention stuff doesnt really count on this..i will leave it out..

    anyways like i said i am looking for that 415-430 hp cam only #'s
    swap your stock rockeres out for roller tip rockers... keep your current rocker ratio...

    get a custom ground cam...

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    I did it in my 99 M6 Corvette. LS6 intake manifold, ported TB, LT headers, offroad X-pipe, Vengeance Racing Vindicator cam. Made 440 thru the stock catback.

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    which vindicator cam did you use? i think htey have got 2-3 out there..was it fairly streetable? post up cam specs please!! or atleast which one you used!

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    Lift is pretty low on that cam you have. Only cam only guys I know makin that kind of power have bigger cams like the G5X4 and a FAST 90/90.

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    how much can i expect to gain w/ aftermarket rockers w/ the stock ratio? and which is best? crane/comp/scorpion/?

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    I say skip the rockers, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Lift is pretty low on that cam you have. Only cam only guys I know makin that kind of power have bigger cams like the G5X4 and a FAST 90/90.
    depends on the heads... a cam is only as good as the heads for the most part...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    depends on the heads... a cam is only as good as the heads for the most part...
    Talkin cam only guys here so heads would be stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Talkin cam only guys here so heads would be stock.
    you'd need a large cam like 230+ from what i've seen from the people here... a t-rex, MS3 or MS4 would do it...

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    TBH if you want thoes numbers the cam you have now would produce what you want with just a set of good heads...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    you'd need a large cam like 230+ from what i've seen from the people here... a t-rex, MS3 or MS4 would do it...
    Thanx for posting what I did in your 1stl quote.
    Last edited by INMY01TA; 05-27-2008 at 12:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    TBH if you want thoes numbers the cam you have now would produce what you want with just a set of good heads...
    Bigger cam=$380
    Heads=$1,300-$2,200

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    At the end of the day it depends on what you're looking to accomplish.

    Do you want to hit a certain number on a dyno? 400 rwhp?
    Or would you prefer to obtain a certain performance goal? 12's?
    Whatever the case may be, which is more important to you -- low/midrange power or power up top?
    What type of driveability requirements do you have? Daily Driver? Weekend Track Star?

    Those should really help us give you a bit of advice on cam selection.

    When I was cam only with bolt ons I was at 390 rwhp. Doesn't sound like much to shake a stick at upon first glance, however the torque figure was 388 and it made a TON of TQ down low. That translated very well to performance on the streets. While I could've gone with a much larger cam and it would've yielded significantly higher cam-only horsepower numbers, it would've been completely contradictory to what I was trying to accomplish in the end (440+ rwhp and 400+ rwtq).
    2002 Camaro SS M6, 2.5 PRC 5.3L heads, TFS 228/230 cam, FAST 92, bolt ons + a 10 lb bottle in the back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Bigger cam=$380
    Heads=$1,300-$2,200
    bare stage II heads... $895.00 just swap over your other parts...

    check with our sponsors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    check with our sponsors...
    No.. Link please? If your talking Patriot heads cause they suck. This is all still beside the fact the OP is asking about cam only cars with 400+hp.

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    Even still....why would you buy new heads and put the stock valves in them? And the old valve seals, and used valvesprings?


    Off topic, but...so was my first statement.
    To each their own concerning Patriot heads. Very happy with mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    To each their own concerning Patriot heads. Very happy with mine.
    I was waiting for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Even still....why would you buy new heads and put the stock valves in them? And the old valve seals, and used valvesprings?


    Off topic, but...so was my first statement.
    To each their own concerning Patriot heads. Very happy with mine.
    he already has a cam from what i've read...

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    T-rex is a good cam

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