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373 hp with cam/header only no boltons

This is a discussion on 373 hp with cam/header only no boltons within the Internal Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever you need to get a new air induction system and headers to benefit the upgrade of ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever View Post
    you need to get a new air induction system and headers to benefit the upgrade of your heads and camshaft.....
    No heads. Its cam and headers......And yes he needs an intake and a lid. An ls6 intake would really wake it up.

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    true true reading never was one of my top quality's lol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99Ls1fever View Post
    true true reading never was one of my top quality's lol....
    LOL no problem.

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    well then, your right he needs to get more air to his engine...

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    cam/lt headers
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    heres the graph, thanks for everything ed.

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    Hey ed, what did you end up setting his Air to fuel ratio at during WOT in the graph it said 13.22 but I recall you said that was too lean, did you end up setting it at the norm of 12.8? Alot of people tell me that is the "lean max torque" number to set it at. I am no tuning guru just very curious.
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    I have all the boltons, cam, and headers =364 RWHP. What cam are you running? Did you put in valve springs and pushrods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-bowties&abird View Post
    heres the graph, thanks for everything ed.
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    looking at your dyno sheet it says uncorrected...what are your numbers SAE corrected...? or am i reading something wrong here...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSwt00SS View Post
    looking at your dyno sheet it says uncorrected...what are your numbers SAE corrected...? or am i reading something wrong here...?
    i dont know much about that. ed would have to get with you on that.

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    also wondering what cam you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf37 View Post
    I have all the boltons, cam, and headers =364 RWHP. What cam are you running? Did you put in valve springs and pushrods?
    comp cams 228/230 581/591 112lsa. yes patriot gold dual spring kit and hardened pushrods. this is an m6, maybe thats why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-bowties&abird View Post
    i dont know much about that. ed would have to get with you on that.
    cool. im not sitting here doubting your claims (as i see you dyno sheet), so please dont get that impression. i know since you're running a larger cam than me that your numbers are expected to be higher as well. it that sometimes there is a difference between corrected numbers and uncorrected numbers

    i remember once i got LT's on my car i was sitting at 376/366 (cam only)...

    btw, what tuning program did he use. i dont recall seeing it above, but then again i could have missed it...

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    WOW guys. Do I feel like an ASS. I ALWAYS keep it set on SAE, and have no idea how it got switched. Dont know if someone was monkeying with it or what.
    I absolutely didnt intend to mislead anyone, and didnt even notice it until someone brought it up.
    I'll send another graph to Brian, and if he wants to post it he can. BTW, HPTuners was used.
    Again sorry to mislead anyone. All I can do is suck it up and apologize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeler99WS6 View Post
    Hey ed, what did you end up setting his Air to fuel ratio at during WOT in the graph it said 13.22 but I recall you said that was too lean, did you end up setting it at the norm of 12.8? Alot of people tell me that is the "lean max torque" number to set it at. I am no tuning guru just very curious.
    A/F was right at 12.8 on the last 2 pulls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSwt00SS View Post
    cool. im not sitting here doubting your claims (as i see you dyno sheet), so please dont get that impression. i know since you're running a larger cam than me that your numbers are expected to be higher as well. it that sometimes there is a difference between corrected numbers and uncorrected numbers

    i remember once i got LT's on my car i was sitting at 376/366 (cam only)...

    btw, what tuning program did he use. i dont recall seeing it above, but then again i could have missed it...
    no i did'nt get that impression at all, the more technical stuff like tuning and dyno numbers i pretty much dont know a whole lot about. i was thinking i would probably be putting down 350-360ish with no bolt ons. but hey the more the better i guess. this is just a weekend driver anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edcmat-l1 View Post
    WOW guys. Do I feel like an ASS. I ALWAYS keep it set on SAE, and have no idea how it got switched. Dont know if someone was monkeying with it or what.
    I absolutely didnt intend to mislead anyone, and didnt even notice it until someone brought it up.
    I'll send another graph to Brian, and if he wants to post it he can. BTW, HPTuners was used.
    Again sorry to mislead anyone. All I can do is suck it up and apologize.
    no worries man. shit happens. you are taking the steps and the means to correct it. most dont, and since you are that only continues to count for your creditiblity and reputation that you have...

    it was confusing at first, because when you first said Brian, I was like , my name is Brian...

    HPTune has yet to lead me in the wrong direction, however i'm needing a reutne after installing my TD's. look at my dyno sheet from a dyno day back in Dec (yes the year is wrong). my old number (with SLP LM cat-back) were 444/395. swapping to TSP TD's, i went to 437/404 but the A/F is F'd up, noting the 1st pull...


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-bowties&abird View Post
    no i did'nt get that impression at all, the more technical stuff like tuning and dyno numbers i pretty much dont know a whole lot about. i was thinking i would probably be putting down 350-360ish with no bolt ons. but hey the more the better i guess. this is just a weekend driver anyway.
    slap up some pics of the car man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSwt00SS View Post
    slap up some pics of the car man!
    i probably will soon but i just got it so i really havent had time to do any pic taking plus its so damn cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-bowties&abird View Post
    i probably will soon but i just got it so i really havent had time to do any pic taking plus its so damn cold.
    i hear you on the cold its freakin 32° here in Dallas feels like 22°...

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    Not bad dyno's guys....

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