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    What is and what does this do?



    the bar that goes across the enginr bay does it help that much, could I just make one?

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    subscribing. i wondered the same thing....

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    it's a STB (strut-tower-brace) or strut-bar

    What it does:
    looks nicer
    allows to lean on it while working on engine bay
    stiffens somewhat the front, like SFCs would stiffen the body.

    what it doesn't do:
    improve handling (makes no diff whatsoever)
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    ic thanks, i still may try mak on someday, maybe this winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenio_SS View Post
    what it doesn't do:
    improve handling (makes no diff whatsoever)
    don't tell my wife that. i put hers on, when we first bought it. then, i took it off to get it painted. while it was off, i went to turn left from a stop light. she asked me if i removed that bar thingy. i said yes. she said she could tell.

    it's used to strengthen the shock tower area where the shocks and upper control arm mount. to try and limit the movement of that sheet metal area of the car.

    it's one of those 50/50 things. some say they can tell, some say they can't. i couldn't tell but she could. go figure.

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    they look cool, and i didnt think aout leaning on it. that would be REALLY convenient... as far as body structure, that makes it even cooler. how much do they run for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    don't tell my wife that. i put hers on, when we first bought it. then, i took it off to get it painted. while it was off, i went to turn left from a stop light. she asked me if i removed that bar thingy. i said yes. she said she could tell.

    it's used to strengthen the shock tower area where the shocks and upper control arm mount. to try and limit the movement of that sheet metal area of the car.

    it's one of those 50/50 things. some say they can tell, some say they can't. i couldn't tell but she could. go figure.
    as i said... it stiffens the front a bit like a SFC would stiffen the body, yet does nothing for handling whatsoever.

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    Usually anywhere from $100-150 Depends on who you go with. The also make adjustable ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenio_SS View Post
    as i said... it stiffens the front a bit like a SFC would stiffen the body, yet does nothing for handling whatsoever.
    why doesn't it? less movement, to me, makes for a more stable car. so, more aggressive driving into the corners could be achieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    why doesn't it? less movement, to me, makes for a more stable car. so, more aggressive driving into the corners could be achieved.
    i agree, but i doubt it makes enough difference to notice

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    apparently, my wife noticed at 10 mph nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    apparently, my wife noticed at 10 mph nonetheless.
    u know better than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    why doesn't it? less movement, to me, makes for a more stable car. so, more aggressive driving into the corners could be achieved.
    the movement is controlled by the springs and shocks... not the STB.
    A car w/ a cage will be stiffer and stronger, yet it doesn't improve your handling.

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    Are these easy to install? and anyone have any directions on how too with just simple tools?

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    All you need is a 5/8" combination wrench. Really easy install, remove 4 nuts, install 4 washers, place STB over studs, install 4 nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenio_SS View Post
    it's a STB (strut-tower-brace) or strut-bar

    What it does:
    looks nicer
    allows to lean on it while working on engine bay
    stiffens somewhat the front, like SFCs would stiffen the body.

    what it doesn't do:
    improve handling (makes no diff whatsoever)

    Exactly what he said!!!!!!!!

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