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    What are the best handling upgrades?

    I am looking into spending a little money to make my '98 T/A ws6 m6 handle better. I was thinking shocks, lowering springs, and swaybars. What are your suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanater View Post
    I am looking into spending a little money to make my '98 T/A ws6 m6 handle better. I was thinking shocks, lowering springs, and swaybars. What are your suggestions?
    how much power, any other mods on your car ?
    You are indeed looking in the right place to get what you want.
    Best... well it depends on your needs and budget.
    Best for which application, and within what budget ?
    Can vary... just like asking which cam is best for my engine... depends on the rest of the setup and intended use, as well as within your budget.

    give us more info please.
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    Right now all I have is a borla catback. I will eventually put other bolt ons on the car but nothing too drastic like heads/cam.

    I would like an setup that works well for autocross/roadcourse. I am only looking to spend about $1,000 for now. I just want a list of things to get me started.

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    I'd get Koni SA on all corners, keep stock springs for now.
    The Koni's are great, will allow you to lower the car by ~3/4" and they are adjustable if you want to change spring rate later.
    That coupled w/ a 35 or 36mm front sway bar... should get you in a great position within your budget.
    I'd then get a good alignment.

    As for later in time, I'd consider a T2R, brake pads, and springs.

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    Thanks for the help!
    What is a T2R?

    And I already have hawk pads.

    Are all swaybar brands the same. Is a hotckis 35mm swaybar any better than a rip-off brand 35mm swaybar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanater View Post
    Thanks for the help!
    What is a T2R?

    And I already have hawk pads.

    Are all swaybar brands the same. Is a hotckis 35mm swaybar any better than a rip-off brand 35mm swaybar?
    T2R is a Torsen differential... great one.
    http://www.torsen.com/products/T-2R.htm

    As for the swaybars, yes, as long as you compare plain vs plain... hollow vs hollow may differ and plane vs holow is not the same.

    Which Hawk pads you have ???... plenty of choice.

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    How much are the Koni SA? I wanted to lower the car but it might not go up my drive way if I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turboz28 View Post
    How much are the Koni SA? I wanted to lower the car but it might not go up my drive way if I do.
    You should be able to get a set for around $800.

    I have seen many driveways use a 'shelf' mod to get their lowered cars up the driveway.

    Some made of rubber, steel, even concrete with a drain pipe.

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    $800 is for all 4, i think... getting the front ones are around $500, i think.
    HDs in the rear are cheaper than the Koni's.
    call www.stranoparts.com for prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexOnWheels View Post
    You should be able to get a set for around $800.

    I have seen many driveways use a 'shelf' mod to get their lowered cars up the driveway.

    Some made of rubber, steel, even concrete with a drain pipe.


    i had a pretty steep driveway with sportlines for a short time (short time with the sportlines that is ) and had no problems getting in/out, you just have to be smart and go at an angle

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    I go at a angle now just to not scrape to bottom of the nose and my tailpipes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turboz28 View Post
    How much are the Koni SA? I wanted to lower the car but it might not go up my drive way if I do.
    What exactly are Koni SA's? Do they lower the car any? I know they are shocks but what is so special about them?

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    single adjustable (SA). everyone seems to prefer them

    they have 2 perch points..(we're they mount i think) high and low for slight difference in height. do they have this feature on the rear too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onoiocoko View Post
    single adjustable (SA). everyone seems to prefer them

    they have 2 perch points..(we're they mount i think) high and low for slight difference in height. do they have this feature on the rear too?
    No. It's just on the front. Most people do the heater hose mod in the rear to lower it with the konis. The lower perch on the front shocks allow the car to be lowered on stock springs. The drop is around 3/4".
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    Shocks are the biggest issue with the cars stock. Beyond that the next two things are springs and swaybar (or both).

    If you are looking to autox and the car is as stock as it seems, you might want to consider staying in F-stock where your car will be legal in 2008. To do that the shocks are legal to change, but you can't run the lower perch if you opt for Koni's (and they are the best). You can change the front bar, but not the rear one. Still it's better to change just the front for autox use. But if you opt to just do it for fun, then you'd want a better matching rear bar like the set I had built (35/22 set, both hollow) and run on my own car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Strano View Post
    Shocks are the biggest issue with the cars stock. Beyond that the next two things are springs and swaybar (or both).

    If you are looking to autox and the car is as stock as it seems, you might want to consider staying in F-stock where your car will be legal in 2008. To do that the shocks are legal to change, but you can't run the lower perch if you opt for Koni's (and they are the best). You can change the front bar, but not the rear one. Still it's better to change just the front for autox use. But if you opt to just do it for fun, then you'd want a better matching rear bar like the set I had built (35/22 set, both hollow) and run on my own car.
    Although the ws6 comes with upgraded shocks, are they much better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanater View Post
    Although the ws6 comes with upgraded shocks, are they much better?
    Better? Relatively they are.... Still leave much to be desired. Still DeCarbon's valved by GM, but not quite as badly.

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