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Subframe connectors & crossmember

This is a discussion on Subframe connectors & crossmember within the Suspension and Handling forums, part of the General Help category; Not to thread jack, as it may help the OP as well, does anyone with bolt-ins thread lock the bolts?...

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    Not to thread jack, as it may help the OP as well, does anyone with bolt-ins thread lock the bolts?

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    I say go UMI I have alot of their suspension parts and if they made sway bars when I replaces mine I wouldn't have had to spend extra for Spohn bars. I would use some lock tite. I plan to get bolt in's and just some minor welding. Since the bolts hold the you don't have to go hrazy with the welder and easier do grind a few small welds and take out some bolts if they need to be removed for some reason down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMdef9 View Post
    Not to thread jack, as it may help the OP as well, does anyone with bolt-ins thread lock the bolts?
    I use blue loctite on ALL of my bolts. It's the best thing you can ever do. I've learned the hard way on my snowmobiles.

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    What happen to you car?

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    What's the diference between 2 point subframe connectors and 3 point subframe connectors. I kne they look diferent. Bt wich one worrk better or ifits the same thing

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    the 3 pointers tie the middle crossmember together.....much stronger IMO

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    I tought those will work a lot better too. Bt will they fit If I still got stock crossmber?
    And the auto trans and manual trans the crossmember is diferent right?

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    not the tranny CM.....the 1 behind the tranny......that cheap sheet metal 1

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    [quote=98maro;2300683]I tought those will work a lot better too. Bt will they fit If I still got stock crossmber?
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    Yeah. They help with preventing any diagonal twisting. I ended up drilling out the hole a little bigger to get things lined up with mine but other then that everything went great.

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    So is that why your car is damage there? I didn't knw that my car has a few of them but I tought some 1 hit it or somethin
    and is that bad or what could happn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98maro View Post
    So is that why your car is damage there? I didn't knw that my car has a few of them but I tought some 1 hit it or somethin
    and is that bad or what could happn?
    I will answer for him. Yes. During hard launches, shifts, etc the body of your car flexes. With SFCs, it alleviates this.

    If you don't have SFC's, what you see in the picture "could" result. It's better to be safe then sorry.

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    Exactly. Even not jacking up the car from the center of the front or rear will twist the body pretty good.
    Almost all the fbodys I've seen up here have these spots.
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    Thanks for the information. I never had an idea bout that could be the problem. That's one more reason to get SFC, and wat bout the torque arm? What is exactly that for. I'm sure it's lighter than the stock one bt any other diference ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98maro View Post
    Thanks for the information. I never had an idea bout that could be the problem. That's one more reason to get SFC, and wat bout the torque arm? What is exactly that for. I'm sure it's lighter than the stock one bt any other diference ?
    An aftermarket torque arm is more rigid than a standard OEM torque arm and will help you plant more power to the ground. An adjustable torque arm will also allow you to set your pinion angle. Pinion angle is very important for ensuring your are transferring power through your drive train properly. Most torque arms come set to -2 degrees.

    The idea is, when you launch your car, the one end lifts up. Therefore, you start at around -2 degrees so when you are pushing the most power through your drive train you are at 0 degrees. This will plant the most traction the the wheels and alleviate any drive train issues long-term.

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    Another benefit of an aftermarket torque arm is that you can get the front mount off the tailshaft of the transmission to relieve stress and any damage to it.

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    So the torque arm is needed as well?
    Wat bout if I can't afford the adjustable torque arm. The non adjustable still a good upgrade? Or should I jst wait for the adjustable one

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98maro View Post
    So the torque arm is needed as well?
    Wat bout if I can't afford the adjustable torque arm. The non adjustable still a good upgrade? Or should I jst wait for the adjustable one
    Non-adjustable comes set from the mfg. at -2 degrees. You cannot adjust it if you change the suspension geometry...example: you lower your car your pinion angle will no longer be at -2.

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    My car is lowered I'm gonna put panhard bar and lower control arms adjustable on all that. And also the 3 point subframe connectors and maybe the crossmember.
    So I'm thinkin bt I'm not sure bout the torque arm. Cuz it cost some money
    so if I have all that the geometry on my car has changed right?
    I jst want the car to feel firm n better handeling.

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