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This is a discussion on Lowering question within the Suspension and Handling forums, part of the General Help category; Im going to be lowering my car soon after i get my TTIIs that are 17x9.5 and 17x11. What all ...

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    Lowering question

    Im going to be lowering my car soon after i get my TTIIs that are 17x9.5 and 17x11.
    What all is necessary for lowering other than the springs and new shocks??
    Ive heard panhard bar? LCAs?? control arms?
    Which of these do i need?
    the car is a daily driver and im lowering mostly for looks along with the new wheels so nothing extreme...
    thanks

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    Adjustable panhard, relocation brackets for the lower control arms and lower control arms as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    Adjustable panhard, relocation brackets for the lower control arms and lower control arms as well.
    so thats everything?
    where do i find LCAs from?
    i tried strano and couldnt find any
    also, are these parts for the front or back or both?
    thanks

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    I would also like to know what all i would need. Its just for looks, and I have the pro-kit and was told that i needed...

    1. Rear lower control arm relocation brackets
    2. Front camber plates?

    What else would i need and can someone tell me where to get them at?

    THANX!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adham View Post
    so thats everything?
    where do i find LCAs from?
    i tried strano and couldnt find any
    also, are these parts for the front or back or both?
    thanks
    Everything I listed was for the rear. Any of the site sponsors will have LCA's. BMR, Spohn, UMI all make real good LCA's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    Everything I listed was for the rear. Any of the site sponsors will have LCA's. BMR, Spohn, UMI all make real good LCA's.
    Thanks!

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    what about for the front?

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    Well nothing is absolutely needed. HOwever whenever lowering your car it throws off your rear geometry a little bit. To correct that you install an adj panhard rod. We've known many to go tens of thouands of miles without adding an ADJ PHR. At worse case your rear tires may wear unevenly.

    Whenever we sold our springs we recommend the PHR. The LCAs and brackets are to help put your power to the ground and reduce wheel hop. They are not necessarily a requirement for lowering your car. But are good mods to have.

    One of the most popular lowering packages we put together was springs and adj PHR combo. For those that wanted extra traction, the LCAs and brackets were the combo to get.

    Good luck!
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    cool
    thanks for clearing things up!
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric @ W.A.R. View Post
    Well nothing is absolutely needed. HOwever whenever lowering your car it throws off your rear geometry a little bit. To correct that you install an adj panhard rod. We've known many to go tens of thouands of miles without adding an ADJ PHR. At worse case your rear tires may wear unevenly.

    Whenever we sold our springs we recommend the PHR. The LCAs and brackets are to help put your power to the ground and reduce wheel hop. They are not necessarily a requirement for lowering your car. But are good mods to have.

    One of the most popular lowering packages we put together was springs and adj PHR combo. For those that wanted extra traction, the LCAs and brackets were the combo to get.

    Good luck!

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    honestly, if you're doing the springs you best do the shocks at the same time-stock shocks, even bilstein aren't valved for lowering and your car will handle like a dump trunk [currently experiencing this ]

    springs
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    adj PHB

    I really reccomend Lower Control arms and relocation brackets too-i'm hopping like a bunny just from stop sign to stop sign on nearly stock power.

    I have had great experience with board sponsor FRCBobby from Kentucky Speed-you should PM him with your needs

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    Quote Originally Posted by third_shift|studios View Post
    honestly, if you're doing the springs you best do the shocks at the same time-stock shocks, even bilstein aren't valved for lowering and your car will handle like a dump trunk [currently experiencing this ]

    springs
    shocks
    adj PHB

    I really reccomend Lower Control arms and relocation brackets too-i'm hopping like a bunny just from stop sign to stop sign on nearly stock power.

    I have had great experience with board sponsor FRCBobby from Kentucky Speed-you should PM him with your needs
    i plan on getting revalved bilstein shocks with the prokit.
    will those work well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T/A36 View Post
    I would also like to know what all i would need. Its just for looks, and I have the pro-kit and was told that i needed...

    1. Rear lower control arm relocation brackets
    2. Front camber plates?

    What else would i need and can someone tell me where to get them at?

    THANX!!!
    whoever told you that... don't get service from them.
    Our cars don't need/have camber plates... you can adjust camber/caster/toe on the cars.
    There is more important things that relocation arms too... shocks is the most important one.
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    one more question!
    should i get the regular LCAs or the adjustables??

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    Hey, I have 18" c6 rims and it now sits pretty high. I have the pro-kit and i want to put them on this week. I dont have a lot of money to spend right now and it is just for looks. Do you think i can put them on a get an alignment done and be fine?

    Thanx

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    Quote Originally Posted by adham View Post
    one more question!
    should i get the regular LCAs or the adjustables??
    anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adham View Post
    one more question!
    should i get the regular LCAs or the adjustables??
    if getting any, get the adj... and stay away from polyurethane ones... drag only... and will hinder cornering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T/A36 View Post
    what about for the front?
    What about it ?
    If you're wondering what needs to be done to lower it, not much... just get an alignment afterwards.

    Quote Originally Posted by T/A36 View Post
    Hey, I have 18" c6 rims and it now sits pretty high. I have the pro-kit and i want to put them on this week. I dont have a lot of money to spend right now and it is just for looks. Do you think i can put them on a get an alignment done and be fine?

    Thanx
    I have 18x10.5 C6 wheels on all corners and as low as prokits... there is a thread lying around w/ some pix in the tire/wheel section (either 1st or 2nd page)
    check it out.

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    How low do you plan on going? I ask because a 17x11 will be very tight even with the adj PHR which will be a must in your application. I have a finger width's clearance on each side from the back of the tire to the inner wheel well and that is after tapping it back some ( I have 17x11 ZR1's). When I was lowered the car did not like taking inclines at an angle as the tires would rub on the inside on the wheel going up and hitting bumps at high speeds (interstate expansion joints) made the outside of the pass tire hit the outer fender lip. I had intrax 1.5's and was quite low (tops of tires were even with the wheel wells) and grew tired of the nuances quite early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slims00ls1z28 View Post
    How low do you plan on going? I ask because a 17x11 will be very tight even with the adj PHR which will be a must in your application. I have a finger width's clearance on each side from the back of the tire to the inner wheel well and that is after tapping it back some ( I have 17x11 ZR1's). When I was lowered the car did not like taking inclines at an angle as the tires would rub on the inside on the wheel going up and hitting bumps at high speeds (interstate expansion joints) made the outside of the pass tire hit the outer fender lip. I had intrax 1.5's and was quite low (tops of tires were even with the wheel wells) and grew tired of the nuances quite early.
    i plan on going with the prokit
    i guess its about a 1.5 inch drop
    but everyone on here has had a good experience with those springs even with the 17x11 wheels
    i am planning on doing the BFH thing too

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