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    Can't hook...No traction

    I just rebuilt my 10 bolt, I know, everyone says never rebuild, upgrade to a 12 bolt or 9", but that's easier said then done when u don't have the money to do it....Anyway, I put a Auburn Pro Series Posi in, Motive 3:73's, UMI non-adj torque arm and a LPW rear cover for some extra strength....Before I was running the stock 3:23's and it hooked pretty good, but now I can't hook for crap in 1st and 2nd gear, her ass is all over the place, and by the way I have an auto not a m6.....All my mods are in the Sig below....Can someone please help me out here and tell me what I could do to make this car hook up better....I would greatly appreciate it
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    Well bigger and/or sticker tires would help. For suspension a set of LCAs with relocations brackets will help and a good set of shocks on all four corners. Springs can help as well, to help the cars weight transfer from front to rear.
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    you need tires and suspension. . . get ahold of sam strano and see what he recommends for you situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GULLETT17 View Post
    you need tires and suspension. . . get ahold of sam strano and see what he recommends for you situation.
    Yea Sam Strano is a suspension Here is he's web site http://www.stranoparts.com/

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    3.73 & a4...wow...that's gotta be FUN!!!

    definately do some boxed lower control arms-and sticky tires...see where that puts you. I would suggest drag shocks after that and then a tq arm relocation

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    ahh get some single adj lca with the relo brackets..also look into getting a adj torque arm. a good set of tires. thats should help greatly. umi has goooood stuff

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    The cure: Drag radials, BMR LCA's, Adjustable shocks, Eibach Drag Launch Springs.

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    Be carefull when putting the sticky tires on. If you have an auto, you can probably get away with it for now. If you are running an m6 they are a little harder on the rear end.

    X2 for Strano. He'll fix you up.

    If your interested in a spare rear pm me. I'm close to Pittsburgh.

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    Drag radials, just heat them sumbiatches up good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Drag radials, just heat them sumbiatches up good!
    I agree 100%...

    Here's my A4 342 geared 113,000 mile 100% stock suspension'd 2000 SS



    and here's the same car with Strange drag shocks, boxed lower control arms, Spohn chassis mount torque arm, Spohn double adjustable panhard bar...



    Big Difference, huh? LMAO...

    The biggest difference was going back to the stock rear shocks, adding a Spohn 25mm rear swaybar and removal of front swaybar...



    My opinion, based on what I did to my car and how it has reacted....

    Slap some Mickey Thompson drag radials on it and be done...

    My car 60 footed a best of 1.58 with nothing more than ProStars and MT drag radials. No better in 2nd pic, and actually worse and slower by a tenth in the bottom pic...

    My car is now back to stock suspension since after adding everything that everyone told me I "had to have", the car was absolutely no quicker, or better launching.

    Car weighs 3755# with me in it...

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    ^^ nice post

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    Quote Originally Posted by third_shift|studios View Post
    3.73 & a4...wow...that's gotta be FUN!!!
    it is!! i have them on both cars. the 4.10s were more fun!! just ran out of gear with 26" tall tires at the track. now that i'm at 663 rwhp, the 3.73 are getting to be too much. shifting into 4th right at the line. i'll be moving to a 28" tall tire next.

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    Yes I forgot to add, take the front sway bar off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    it is!! i have them on both cars. the 4.10s were more fun!! just ran out of gear with 26" tall tires at the track. now that i'm at 663 rwhp, the 3.73 are getting to be too much. shifting into 4th right at the line. i'll be moving to a 28" tall tire next.
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    Thanks for all the info guys, I appreciate it....I'm gonna call Ryan at UMI and also Sam Strano and see what they say....I go to school at Penn State and UMI is only 20 miles from here and I just saw that Sam Strano is not to far from me also, so again thanks for all the info guys.....One other question tho....I'm running the stock ws6 wheels and tires....275/40ZR17, would moving up to maybe 285 or 295 help me at all???.....Will they fit???

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    Quote Originally Posted by rel3rd View Post
    I agree 100%...

    Here's my A4 342 geared 113,000 mile 100% stock suspension'd 2000 SS

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    and here's the same car with Strange drag shocks, boxed lower control arms, Spohn chassis mount torque arm, Spohn double adjustable panhard bar...

    Click for full size

    Big Difference, huh? LMAO...

    The biggest difference was going back to the stock rear shocks, adding a Spohn 25mm rear swaybar and removal of front swaybar...

    Click for full size

    My opinion, based on what I did to my car and how it has reacted....

    Slap some Mickey Thompson drag radials on it and be done...

    My car 60 footed a best of 1.58 with nothing more than ProStars and MT drag radials. No better in 2nd pic, and actually worse and slower by a tenth in the bottom pic...

    My car is now back to stock suspension since after adding everything that everyone told me I "had to have", the car was absolutely no quicker, or better launching.

    Car weighs 3755# with me in it...

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    THis is a great post! Love the pix too. Do you think you're launching a bit high though? i mean, getting the nose up is just a waste of power isn't it?

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    Well, I only launch at 1300-1500 rpm's, so lowering that isn't really an option for me. Same results launching from an idle anyway.

    If nothing else, yanking the one wheel up on every pass makes for cool pictures.

    I think it's much more impressive to be able to say I have ZERO suspension mods and get high 1.5 or low 1.6 sixty foots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSteen25 View Post
    Thanks for all the info guys, I appreciate it....I'm gonna call Ryan at UMI and also Sam Strano and see what they say....I go to school at Penn State and UMI is only 20 miles from here and I just saw that Sam Strano is not to far from me also, so again thanks for all the info guys.....One other question tho....I'm running the stock ws6 wheels and tires....275/40ZR17, would moving up to maybe 285 or 295 help me at all???.....Will they fit???
    negative on the tire size. have to upgrade bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSteen25 View Post
    Thanks for all the info guys, I appreciate it....I'm gonna call Ryan at UMI and also Sam Strano and see what they say....I go to school at Penn State and UMI is only 20 miles from here and I just saw that Sam Strano is not to far from me also, so again thanks for all the info guys.....One other question tho....I'm running the stock ws6 wheels and tires....275/40ZR17, would moving up to maybe 285 or 295 help me at all???.....Will they fit???
    Personally I dont think Strano's the guy to talk to about hooking up at the track but that's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Personally I dont think Strano's the guy to talk to about hooking up at the track but that's just my opinion.
    I was thinking the same thing...unless most of us misunderstood, and the guy wants to ride around in circles...

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