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    Where To By Clutch Master Cylinder

    Looks like I need a clutch master, I changed the fluid, still no change. Where can a I get a quality master? I don't need a high performance one, I'm on a tight budget right now. Thanks for the input.

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    The GM one isn't too badly priced from one of our sponsors - GMPartsDirect.com. Its listed at $140

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    Thanks, I've seen them as low as $80.00 at different "off brand sites", would one of those suffice?

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    yes probablly

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    I just got the one from AdvanceAuto i think it was only 75 bucks. it works great! just make sure to get the whole system bled.

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    Sounds good, thanks a bunch.......I'm wondering though if its the slave or the master?? My problem is when holding the clutch in, it won't keep the gears from engaging. The pedal will then become "dead", unless pumped a few times? Thanks again.

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    i ended up replacing both...
    here is my old slave,
    notice all the black gunk around the end of the bearing.
    here is the new slave. notice the difference,
    Also, my master was very sloppy. once i removed it, i could push the cylinder in and out and here/feel that it did not seal at the top. thus allowing air to enter the system, which added one more reason for the trans to not disengage...

    if you are going to remove the trans anyway to get the slave out, i recommend checking your pilot bushing. i had my clutch done about 2-3 years ago and had them put a pilot bearing in instead of a bushing, thinking it would be better. below is the picture of my bushing in my hand...
    apparently they will fail for several reasons. 1, they are not able to be lubricated once installed, and 2 they can be installed wrong very easily. so go with a bushing instead L :-)

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    Thanks for the info, I'll be tearing into it next week......

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    Quote Originally Posted by raysz28 View Post
    i ended up replacing both...
    here is my old slave, Click for full size
    notice all the black gunk around the end of the bearing.
    here is the new slave. notice the difference, Click for full size
    Also, my master was very sloppy. once i removed it, i could push the cylinder in and out and here/feel that it did not seal at the top. thus allowing air to enter the system, which added one more reason for the trans to not disengage...

    if you are going to remove the trans anyway to get the slave out, i recommend checking your pilot bushing. i had my clutch done about 2-3 years ago and had them put a pilot bearing in instead of a bushing, thinking it would be better. below is the picture of my bushing in my hand...Click for full size
    apparently they will fail for several reasons. 1, they are not able to be lubricated once installed, and 2 they can be installed wrong very easily. so go with a bushing instead L :-)
    Thanks for the great info I was about to install one of dose GM needle roller pilot bearing as an upgrade to the bronze pilot bushing but after watching your pic's i will stick with the stock bushings!!!
    By the way do you know if the Ram high flow Slave Cylinder and throwout bearing assembly for 98-02 LS1 F-body is a better unit then the stock GM unit? Again thanks for the write up

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertRat View Post
    Thanks for the great info I was about to install one of dose GM needle roller pilot bearing as an upgrade to the bronze pilot bushing but after watching your pic's i will stick with the stock bushings!!!
    By the way do you know if the Ram high flow Slave Cylinder and throwout bearing assembly for 98-02 LS1 F-body is a better unit then the stock GM unit? Again thanks for the write up
    unless you are getting a huge clutch that needs all that adjustable stuff, i wouldnt bother...

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    Quote Originally Posted by raysz28 View Post
    unless you are getting a huge clutch that needs all that adjustable stuff, i wouldnt bother...
    Thanks.

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    So there's really no way to tell which one is bad with no leaks?

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    Also, i found this clutch care web site...i have started doing this as well.
    http://www.rangeracceleration.com/Clutch_Care.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by raysz28 View Post
    i ended up replacing both...
    here is my old slave, Click for full size
    notice all the black gunk around the end of the bearing.
    here is the new slave. notice the difference, Click for full size
    Also, my master was very sloppy. once i removed it, i could push the cylinder in and out and here/feel that it did not seal at the top. thus allowing air to enter the system, which added one more reason for the trans to not disengage...

    if you are going to remove the trans anyway to get the slave out, i recommend checking your pilot bushing. i had my clutch done about 2-3 years ago and had them put a pilot bearing in instead of a bushing, thinking it would be better. below is the picture of my bushing in my hand...Click for full size
    apparently they will fail for several reasons. 1, they are not able to be lubricated once installed, and 2 they can be installed wrong very easily. so go with a bushing instead L :-)
    That piot bearing you have in your hand looks like a stock pilot bearing instead of a bushing that you said it was... So is that a bearing or a bushing in your hand?

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