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    Time for a new Clutch

    Hi, guys. I need help. I think it's time to get a new clutch. For my 98 z28
    what could be the best choice. I'm sure it's the the stock ls1 clutch
    I heard that ls6 it's a good upgrade. Or somethin better than that? Idk plz help me out
    and if I get the ls6 I have to change some parts inside?
    Let me knw wat I need thanks

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    I put the Ls6 clutch in mine from SLP, you don't have to change anything out. Fits like stock and doesn't slip after 4-6 quick 1/4 miles runs.
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    Ok. Thanks I thought I had to chang flywheel or somethin.
    And it feels better than the ls1?
    Thanks

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    anything is better than the stock. i put the spec stage ii in, and put the shim in behind the slave. rsurface the flywheel, you are golden. oh, and one thing i learned....... the tranny comes out first, and then the bellhousing.
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    Talk to Kentucky Speed (sponsor), Mark can set you up with just about everything you need to do the clutch.

    Here's the grocery list:

    LS7 Clutch Kit (Clutch, Pressure Plate, Flywheel)
    Slave Cylinder (has throw-out bearing included)
    Master Cylnder (Go with the Tick Performance- it's worth the extra bucks!)
    Tick Performance Speed Bleeder (you don't have to have it, but it makes bleeding the clutch a breeze- worth the money!)
    Pilot Bearing
    Brake fluid (DOT 3)
    Auto trans fluid (Dex)

    Optional-
    ARP Flywheel and Pressure Plate bolts
    Rear main seal (why not- you'll have it torn down far enough to change it out)
    Trans mount

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    I'll go n check it out
    and see if I can afford it. Thanks for the help
    and I think I also need the clutch cilynder The one that go inside the transmission.

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    The one in the trans is the Slave cyl. Think of it this way- the Master Cylinder controls the Slave Cylinder- when you push the clutch down, you're pushing in the plunger on the Master which is pushing fluid to the Slave which moves the throwout bearing. Maybe not the most PC explination, but hey- it works.

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    Oh ok. Cuz I took it to the shop bcuz. It's the second time it happend. That some times the clutch gets stock in. And I have to pulld it bk with my hand
    so my mechanic said it was that part
    and bout the clutch Its almost gone cuz my friend was triyin to do a burnout on my car and. And after that. It start smelin like burnd clutch. I took it arond the block. And it feels diferent. Bt it' still drives

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    Have you tried flushing the clutch fluid? How many miles are on your clutch?

    If you're changing the clutch, change the hydraulics. You can get by with using the updated GM parts and keep your parts bill under $1k. The clutch kit is a little over $500, Master and Slave will run under $300 total.

    There are a few postings on flushing the fluid and fixing the sticky pedal problem- those should at least get you by until you can save up to do the clutch right. I drove mine for a short while having to pump the clutch when I first started the car. Just be careful and don't tear up your trans.

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    I dnt knw how many miles it's on the clutch. Cuz I bought 6 months ago. The guy had it for 4 years he never changed it. At least he didn't tell me
    he did told me that he did the flush to the clutch lines. N still had the problem
    in those 6 months it only happnds twice. So I'm not so worry bout it yet

    I was thinkin bout changin everithing like hydraulic parts inside.
    Cuz da part I need it's 80 dollars the labor it's $350. So I'm savin some cash to do it at once

    what clutch u got on yours?

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    I have the LS7, Tick MC, and GM Slave- great setup for my car. As long as you're not much more than stock, the LS7 is a great clutch. I figure that my factory clutch lasted 131,000 miles, so this one should last me a short while. Keep in mind the Slave is located in the trans- you have to drop the trans to get to it so you might as well change out the clutch while you're in there. And don't forget to add the Tick speed bleeder- you'll make your life way easier if you do. Makes bleeding and flushing the clutch fluid a breeze- it's the gift that keeps on giving.

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    I'm sure my car still has the stock 1 from the factory
    it has 118k miles on the car

    so anything of ls6 or ls7 parts are a good up grade for ls1?

    I was doin some reserch on eBay idk if I'm wrong
    bt the ls7 clutch was cheaper than the ls6
    idk why

    so what should I change?

    Clutch ls7
    hydriulic parts inside? Ls7
    thanks

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    The LS7 kit will come with the clutch, pressure plate and flywheel- you need the LS7 flywheel to use the LS7 clutch on the LS1. If you want to get by, just do the clutch kit, slave cyl, pilot bearing and get the Tick speed bleeder - trust me on the speed bleeder, bleeding these are a royal pain in the ass. You can then save up to get the rest, but you should take care of everthing inside the bell housing while you have the trans out.

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    BTW- you can get most everthing from Kentucky Speed. The Clutch Kit, Slave, and Tick bleeder will run just under $700 and the pilot bearing can be picked up from gmpartsdirect.com for around $20. I'm happy to offer whatever help I can, but most all you could ever need can be around here from people who are way better at this stuff than I am!

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    I really apreciate it your help. Idk to much bout this I'm new on this cars
    I always liked em. Bt b4 I was a HEMI fan lol

    what do you think bout the clutch on eBay?
    Is that good stuff? They offer ls7 clutch or the whole kit
    bt idk if that's unthentic stuff. What do you think?

    And I will feel a diference on the power once everithing is done right?
    Also I was thinkin. Bout 3.73 gears. What can you tell me bout that?
    ThNk u

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    There are a couple on eBay that look like authentic GM parts, but they cost $520 and up- more than what KY Speed would cost and Mark at KY is a great guy- I think most everyone around here would agree.

    I installed a 3.73 in my 'Hawk and it's been great. Between the new clutch and the 3.73 it feels like a whole different car. Sometimes I think I should have gone up to a 4.11 but since my car is my daily driver, I didn't want to go too crazy. The 3.73 really woke it up off the line. The 3.73 is about 10% taller- meaning your spedometer will be off around 10% and according to the butt dyno it feels about 10% faster with only about 10% loss in mileage (went from 17 mpg to 15.5 mpg).

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    Ok I'll go check it out. Where could I find him?
    Can you provide the link or somethin. Thanks!

    So it's a good thing 3.73? Cuz I knw the gas mileage it's gonna change but idk if it's worth it

    my friend have 4.10 on his. And now he regret him self for doin that.
    He wants to get the 3.73
    and people say I should keep it stock. I think it's 3.42? But idk

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    3.42 is stock- 3.73 is just enough without going overboard- especially if its a dd or you're worried about mileage (don't listen to th morons who say "Screw mileage- that's why you have a V8!" We all know the truth, I bought a V8 for the powerful American muscle- but if I can't afford to drive it then why have it? Not all of us have an infinite supply of money and would rather buy things like groceries and power adders than handing all of our hard earned money back to the oil companies- sorry, had to vent.)

    Go to http://www.kentucky-speed.com - that's Kentucky Speed's site. Here are the parts:

    Clutch Kit:
    http://kentucky-speed.com/gm-gm-ls7-...kit-p-555.html

    Slave:
    http://kentucky-speed.com/gm-gm-9802...nder-p-41.html

    Tick Bleeder:
    http://kentucky-speed.com/tick-perfo...ine-p-503.html

    You can find Mark around here (Marksls1ta- send him a pm). See if he has the pilot bearing. If he doesn't, check out http://www.gmpartsdirect.com.

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    Haha that's so true. To me I dnt really cate bout da mileage as long as I like the car. Bt I love my car.
    And all I want it's add ponies. To kill ponies lol (Gts)

    so 3.73 are worth it then?
    I'll go n check out the clutch kit and that stuff

    what upgrades you got on your car?

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    I don't have much- bought my 'Hawk after it had lived a rough life so all the work I've done has been to repair what damage had been done.

    First project was the brakes which were shot so I put some slotted and drilled rotors. Not much of an upgrade, but a neccesary fix.

    Second thing I ended up having to do was rebuild the rearend- it made a roaring noise like a semi was running up your tail. So I bought a set up Moser bearing cap studs, a Moser aluminum rear end cover (with the bearing cap hold downs) and a Richmond 3.73. Had the entire rear gone through and all the bearings and seals replaced.

    Next was the clutch and hydraulics. Went with the exact same setup I've suggested to you- LS7, Tick MC, GM Slave and pilot bearing, rear main, input shaft seal on the trans, and I added a Hurst shifter.

    Lastly I installed a double DIN radio since my old Monsoon stereo was on the fritz and I wanted to keep it as clean an install as possible. My next project is my LSXtreme Long Tube Headers and Y pipe. I have a small leak in the exhaust and it feels like one or both cats may be clogging up or something, so the LT/Y-pipe will fix that.

    Still have a ton of body and interior work as well as suspension work- but all that will have to wait until later this year.

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