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    Hi all,
    I was driving my car ('00 M6) yesterday and the clutch quit. The pedal sits on the floor, and wont pump up. i tried bleeding the system, new fluid, etc. it wont pump any fluid at all so i'm thinking bad master, i figure its the easiest place to start. Its not leaking or losing any fluid.
    Any recommendations? and anyone have the part # for an '02 GM master (I heard they were better in 01 and 02, any truth?)
    thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsgunner28 View Post
    Hi all,
    I was driving my car ('00 M6) yesterday and the clutch quit. The pedal sits on the floor, and wont pump up. i tried bleeding the system, new fluid, etc. it wont pump any fluid at all so i'm thinking bad master, i figure its the easiest place to start. Its not leaking or losing any fluid.
    Any recommendations? and anyone have the part # for an '02 GM master (I heard they were better in 01 and 02, any truth?)
    thanks!
    I am pretty sure the master is the same for both 01/02. It was the pre-2001 MC's that were the junk ones.

    Most people who upgrade go with either the newer GM one or the adjustable tick one. Just a suggestion also, but have you tried the drill mod?

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    Yeah I did the drill mod as soon as i got it out of the car today and it still wont suck in or push out any fluid. Guess ill have to wait for the dealership to open tomorrow and order one and try that first..

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    I don't even think they sell the older hydraulics anymore but to be safe, ask for a 2001 or 2002.

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    wow, little sticker shock, $235! any other brands as good? lol

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    How much is the Tick one?

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    which tick one, what brand is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsgunner28 View Post
    which tick one, what brand is it?
    Tick..the one I mentioned in my very first reply to you in this thread. Google "Tick adjustable master cylinder".

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    o ok $340 lol ill go with the GM one

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsgunner28 View Post
    wow, little sticker shock, $235! any other brands as good? lol
    You can do better than that check online.

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    I would check the for sale section here and over on tech. Someone might have a car they are parting out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsgunner28 View Post
    wow, little sticker shock, $235! any other brands as good? lol
    $149 on gmpartsdirect. Or I'll sell mine for $75+shipping. It is only about 3 years old and I kept the fluid clean in the new one.

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    wish I woulda saw that b4 i ordered one for $160.

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    Is it possible to blow the master and slave at the same time? my new master is installed and i was able to bleed it and get fluid pushing and it started leaking out the bell housing now. what do you all think? I need help/opinions before i start dropping the tranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsgunner28 View Post
    Is it possible to blow the master and slave at the same time? my new master is installed and i was able to bleed it and get fluid pushing and it started leaking out the bell housing now. what do you all think? I need help/opinions before i start dropping the tranny.
    Yep it possible to have a bad master and slave. And it sounds like that slave is leaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    Yep it possible to have a bad master and slave. And it sounds like that slave is leaking.
    Okay thats what i thought but was hoping i wasnt that unlucky..
    Anyone have any tips for dropping the tranny or is it pretty straight forward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsgunner28 View Post
    Is it possible to blow the master and slave at the same time? my new master is installed and i was able to bleed it and get fluid pushing and it started leaking out the bell housing now. what do you all think? I need help/opinions before i start dropping the tranny.
    Are you getting presure at the pedal now? Is the clutch working? Where did the fluid go while you were bleeding the line? It has been a few years since I did mine, but I think when I bleed mine the fluid ran out the btm of the bellhousing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcar View Post
    Are you getting presure at the pedal now? Is the clutch working? Where did the fluid go while you were bleeding the line? It has been a few years since I did mine, but I think when I bleed mine the fluid ran out the btm of the bellhousing.
    exactly, no pressure really but now its running out of the bottom of the bell housing, wouldnt do that before i changed the master.. i have the tranny about out now.

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