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    Torque Converter

    I need to order my torque converter. It's a bone stock LS1. I would like to keep it under 500.00.

    I'm looking for advice on brand, stall ....etc.

    Also are these 30 spline?

    Thanks!

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    I have a street performance stall from Circle D they go to 3200 rpm and cost$400. They also make high performance single disc version for $725 and you can get higher rpm stalls. They build them when ordered so you may have to wait.a.couple.days. I have the $400 3200 rpm stall and it's a nice stall and better than any other stall I have found in the price range.
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    TCI street fighter 3500 rpm stall..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28Thunder View Post
    TCI street fighter 3500 rpm stall..
    Seems pretty radical - for my application. This car spends 90% of it's life on the highway at 1800 rpm going to and from work. Thinking about going back stock, either with a Hughes or Dacco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79Firebird_99TA View Post
    Seems pretty radical - for my application. This car spends 90% of it's life on the highway at 1800 rpm going to and from work. Thinking about going back stock, either with a Hughes or Dacco.
    With torque converter lockup, you won't notice anything different between stock and 3500 stall converters at highways speeds. Bone stock LS1s and mid 3000 rpm stall converters are a perfect match like monkeys and bananas.

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    What difference would I see with a 3500 and stock converter? I guess I'm just confused .....

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    You get all the advantages of a high stall converter but the converter will still lockup (directly connecting the engine and trans like a clutch in a manual transmission) at highways speeds.
    Read this sticky for more info: What stall convertors do. If you still have questions, please ask. I'll try to explain as best I can

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79Firebird_99TA View Post
    Seems pretty radical - for my application
    Radical IMO is a 4000 or bigger converter.. For a stock car..


    Quote Originally Posted by 79Firebird_99TA View Post
    What difference would I see with a 3500 and stock converter? I guess I'm just confused .....

    The stock converters are 1900. With a stock converter you have to build power from 1900 until the stock shift point 5600 rpm I think.. A 3500 converter is going to flash to 3500. You will then build power from 3500 until the same stock shift point (5600 rpm). The idea is to get the motor into the power band quicker. Going to a different converter size does take time to get use to. I would say it would take a week or two to get use to it. Once use to it you will think GM should have put it in the car to begin with. Besides SFC (sub frame connectors) it should be the first mod on a A4 LS1.. It really wakes the car up and makes it a blast to drive.
    Last edited by Z28Thunder; 12-14-2010 at 08:09 PM.

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    Putting a 3400 stall (with accompanying tranny mods and cooler) into the 02 lowered my ET by .5 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    Putting a 3400 stall (with accompanying tranny mods and cooler) into the 02 lowered my ET by .5 seconds.
    Transmission mods? I did fail to mention the adding a cooler part, a most. They do not cost much and add life to the transmission. I put a 20-22000 GVW transmission cooler on mine for like $40..

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    Good info here ... and I think I'll go with the TCI street fighter 3200 and "feed those monkeys" some bananas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79Firebird_99TA View Post
    Good info here ... and I think I'll go with the TCI street fighter 3200 and "feed those monkeys" some bananas!
    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28Thunder View Post
    Transmission mods? I did fail to mention the adding a cooler part, a most. They do not cost much and add life to the transmission. I put a 20-22000 GVW transmission cooler on mine for like $40..
    I rebuilt the tranny and upgraded the sun shell (Beast), clutches (6 vs 5) and type (Raybestos racing type), added a shift kit (TCI) along with internal valve body mods and deleted TM.

    The tranny can now handle way more than I can currently throw at it. I did this with future mods to the engine in mind.

    All this might not have needed to be done at the time but it was out of the car already and partially disassembled for inspection sooooo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    Nice!
    About to order it .... the TCI-3200 , am I really going to like this? ... street driving and highways? .... maybe I need to give someone the money and let them order it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 79Firebird_99TA View Post
    About to order it .... the TCI-3200 , am I really going to like this? ... street driving and highways? .... maybe I need to give someone the money and let them order it.
    No, you're not gonna like it....You're gonna wish you went bigger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    No, you're not gonna like it....You're gonna wish you went bigger

    Man ... I just wish I could drive one first. This is my DD and I don't want to be revving like hell to get this thing to take off ....LOL. I'm really tempted to go to AZ and get the stock Daaco ....or however you spell it.

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    Is there something wrong with your current converter? Because i was thinking you were looking to upgrade to a higher stall converter.

    You look around this forum for someone local and ask for a ride in there car and see if you'll like how the higher stalls drive/perform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    Is there something wrong with your current converter? Because i was thinking you were looking to upgrade to a higher stall converter.

    You look around this forum for someone local and ask for a ride in there car and see if you'll like how the higher stalls drive/perform.

    Yeah ... the tranny went out at 210K miles and I would hate to leave the original converter in her and contaminate the fluid. I am basically swapping the transmission.

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    Read this thread. Lots of good info about high stall converters in LS1 cars

    http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148745

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