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This is a discussion on How Much Can it HOLD? within the Automatic Transmission forums, part of the Drivetrain category; Originally Posted by mark21742 but, if you grenade the tranny, you can use it as an excuse to get a ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    but, if you grenade the tranny, you can use it as an excuse to get a higher stall like I did, went from a 2,800 to 3,800
    Haha, ya,,,the problem I see is this combination not working well from the get go without a converter to work with that cam anyway.

    A cam with that much overlap will more than likely struggle to just idle with a stock converter when you put it in gear, with the common lung into gear and then pushing through the brakes etc..., then there is the issue with soggy performance when you stand on the go pedal.

    I'd go with a package deal, with a converter speced to work with the particular camshaft you have. Talking to a good converter manufacture is the best route, not something off the shelf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1wallen View Post
    It doent look like you would have much room for a transmisson cooler on the radiator and which cooler are you using?
    It's tight, but a good size cooler can be put in front of the radiator. I installed one on mine, and even managed to snug it up behind the SLP cold air duct that was already on the car.
    It was some work, but makes for a clean install that gets direct airflow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Haha, ya,,,the problem I see is this combination not working well from the get go without a converter to work with that cam anyway.

    A cam with that much overlap will more than likely struggle to just idle with a stock converter when you put it in gear, with the common lung into gear and then pushing through the brakes etc..., then there is the issue with soggy performance when you stand on the go pedal.

    I'd go with a package deal, with a converter speced to work with the particular camshaft you have. Talking to a good converter manufacture is the best route, not something off the shelf.
    even with my old cam (220/224) the 2,800 stall worked, but was on the small side....going up to the 3,800 made a big difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    even with my old cam (220/224) the 2,800 stall worked, but was on the small side....going up to the 3,800 made a big difference
    Yep, you at least had some sort of converter in there. The problem I see with the posters combo is no converter mentioned at all,,,just an MS3 camshaft that he wants to install. The car won't be very happy with a stock converter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Yep, you at least had some sort of converter in there. The problem I see with the posters combo is no converter mentioned at all,,,just an MS3 camshaft that he wants to install. The car won't be very happy with a stock converter.
    I did the converter 1st, and it felt like the stock motor needed the higher converter wwith the stock cam.......really woke it up

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    well ive already talked to converter shop in my local area and he told me to go with around a 3000 stall. Bc i told him i wasnt trying to build a race car, this is my everyday driver. And even though this cam is made for a higher stall, to get the full performace i would need a bigger stall. Where can i pick up a trans cooler at?
    Advance Auto Parts or Auto Zone??? and which one?

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    just my .02' as stated before, go bigger-biggeeerrrr, you may get a good deal from your local, but you may come out better in the long run going with a major converter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    I did the converter 1st, and it felt like the stock motor needed the higher converter wwith the stock cam.......really woke it up
    Yep I agree. The LS1 is a bit soggy below 3,000 rpm anyway,,,and in stock form the LS1 needs use a lose converter to make them come alive.

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    ok well what about the transmission cooler, how big should i got and what brand and from where?

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    it's like the M6...we have to worry about 10 bolts exploding and the A4 guys gotta worry about smashing up their tranny lol too funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by usafshelley View Post
    ok well what about the transmission cooler, how big should i got and what brand and from where?
    I crawled around mine and determined where I wanted the cooler positioned, and let that space dictate more or less what size cooler I went with.
    Really depends where you want to mount it. They come in all shapes and sizes.
    If you run a cooler in conjunction with the factory cooler,,,you really don't have to go overkill on the capacity rating of the add on cooler, although I like overkill.
    As far as brands that's personal preference. Alot of good quality coolers out there.

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