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How Much Can it HOLD?

This is a discussion on How Much Can it HOLD? within the Automatic Transmission forums, part of the Drivetrain category; I have a 2001 camaro SS with 111,000 miles. The trans work perfect and shifts like a champ with my ...

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    How Much Can it HOLD?

    I have a 2001 camaro SS with 111,000 miles. The trans work perfect and shifts like a champ with my diablosport tuner. but i just recently bought a cam(ms3) and heads(P-n-P slp) and i was wondering how much power can you put to the stock trans before it eats shit?

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    Our 4l60-e's are finicky they can tank with just bolt-ons. Are your heads stock just ported and polished, bigger valves? If you clean it out regularly and have a proper cooler that will go a long way to keeping it alive. A friend installed a 228 cam with a 3600 stall and his transmission went out almost a month later (so yah it's a crap shoot)

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    with any stall you NEED a tranny cooler... bigger = better.
    there are a few weak points in our trannies you can upgrade =
    hd sprag
    the Beast sunshell
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    Would recommend a tranny cooler stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot91 View Post
    Would recommend a tranny cooler stock
    I agree keep it cool, I think you should be ready to replace/repair, may last a little while , but I do not think the 3/4 pack will last long
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    Quote Originally Posted by SS SLP2 View Post
    I agree keep it cool, I think you should be ready to replace/repair, may last a little while , but I do not think the 3/4 pack will last long
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    removing the 6 little black clips and springs help that out

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    Eh the 4L60E can break stock, I'd personally start saving for a rebuild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    Our 4l60-e's are finicky they can tank with just bolt-ons. Are your heads stock just ported and polished, bigger valves? If you clean it out regularly and have a proper cooler that will go a long way to keeping it alive. A friend installed a 228 cam with a 3600 stall and his transmission went out almost a month later (so yah it's a crap shoot)
    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    with any stall you NEED a tranny cooler... bigger = better.
    there are a few weak points in our trannies you can upgrade =
    hd sprag
    the Beast sunshell
    Transgo shift kit
    Corvette solinoids
    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot91 View Post
    Would recommend a tranny cooler stock
    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    Eh the 4L60E can break stock, I'd personally start saving for a rebuild.
    Agreed with all above. It doesn't take much to break the 4l60E

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    yea ive thought about that, so should i go ahead and put a beast sunshell, hd sprag, corvette solinoids, and transgo shift kit?? or just leave it stock and put a cooler on it???
    And when i do replace what does it cost to get one rebuilt

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    Quote Originally Posted by usafshelley View Post
    yea ive thought about that, so should i go ahead and put a beast sunshell, hd sprag, corvette solinoids, and transgo shift kit?? or just leave it stock and put a cooler on it???
    And when i do replace what does it cost to get one rebuilt
    I went out and got the best of tje best of everything and it cost about $2500 + the stall.

    I did beat on the stock tranny daily for a year before it went.

    you can pickup the beast sunshell for about $69, transgo shift kit for $200.....cant remember the price of the sprag and pump.
    I also got the Raptor R input kit that came with the beast sunshell and sonnex carrier and Hughes race kevlar clutchs and steels, and 5 pin planets

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    so when you beat on your trans for a year, was it bone stock?

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    Beat on it all you want, but at least put a shift kit in it, and a huge auxiliary cooler, AND SAVE FOR THE FUTURE REBUILD.

    I got no problem beating on shit, when i have money waiting to rebuild anything that could go wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usafshelley View Post
    so when you beat on your trans for a year, was it bone stock?
    stock internals with tranny cooler and 2,800 stall, 0 torque management, 0 shift delay and raised line pressure........it was a time bomb lol

    remember if you grenade the tranny the converter fillsup with junk too so you need to replace it too

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    basicly I had the hardest most violent shift possible for a year before it went

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    with any stall you NEED a tranny cooler... bigger = better.
    there are a few weak points in our trannies you can upgrade =
    hd sprag
    the Beast sunshell
    Transgo shift kit
    Corvette solinoids
    i didn't think there were any difference in the solenoids. can anyone explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joedude02 View Post
    i didn't think there were any difference in the solenoids. can anyone explain?
    the Vette solinoids are the heavy duty version of the stock ones

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    You may as well go throught the tranny while it's out. Since you are going to need to pull it to install a lose converter for that MS3 cam anyway.

    That MS3 won't work well if at all with a stock converter, and I didn't see a converter on the upgrade list. Converter should be done before a cam,,,,or at the same time.

    Chances are good if you chunk the tranny it will take the converter with it, or at the very least pass trash through it to the point where it would need cut open. So why not just go through the tranny now and save some money in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    You may as well go throught the tranny while it's out. Since you are going to need to pull it to install a lose converter for that MS3 cam anyway.

    That MS3 won't work well if at all with a stock converter, and I didn't see a converter on the upgrade list. Converter should be done before a cam,,,,or at the same time.

    Chances are good if you chunk the tranny it will take the converter with it, or at the very least pass trash through it to the point where it would need cut open. So why not just go through the tranny now and save some money in the long run.
    but, if you grenade the tranny, you can use it as an excuse to get a higher stall like I did, went from a 2,800 to 3,800

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    converter + rebuild ..then cam ..the biggest problem with the 4l60e is piss poor flow..causing overheating issues. well that and the stock tunes cause slips for soft shifts.

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    It doent look like you would have much room for a transmisson cooler on the radiator and which cooler are you using?
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