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High Stall on the Street

This is a discussion on High Stall on the Street within the Automatic Transmission forums, part of the Drivetrain category; Originally Posted by Klug23 car will move before it gets the the stall point no matter what the lock up ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klug23 View Post
    car will move before it gets the the stall point no matter what the lock up is set at.
    It just takes a little more throttle then say a stock stall car would.
    with my 3,800 on light throttle it will start rolling at 1,100-1,200 rpms

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    go with a 4k for your set up..i have heard from several mags that 4k is damn near perfect for the characteristics of the ls1.


    however it is worth saying...dont go on stall speed alone ...look at the STR..the higher..the harder it "hits" and will correspond to a lower ET....along with STR..buy from a good stall manufacturer ...like Circle D or Yank (i will be going with yank) or a company like that....to help prevent the hit or miss factor.

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    what is STR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T/A98 View Post
    what is STR?
    its the torque multiplication hit when the converter hits stall speed.......higher number = higher multiplication.......but the higher the str the less effecient the converter is up towards redline

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    its the torque multiplication hit when the converter hits stall speed.......higher number = higher multiplication.......but the higher the str the less effecient the converter is up towards redline
    This is true but the higher STR will be tighter and feel more stockish because it multiplies torque more below the rated stall speed. That is why Yank makes their Street/strip convertors 2.5 str. The PT series has a 2.2 str but is considered more of a race TC. PT has a higher shift extension too.

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    Great info! How about transmission mods to go with the higher stall? One post recommended a shift kit and I understand that an auxilliary trans cooler is mandatory. Does the stall affect the longevity of an otherwise stock transmission?

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    a cooler is a must..the bigger the better...a tune will help...a good hard stall will put more wear on the transmission ..especially the sunshell due to the increase heat ..but that is why a big cooler is necessary

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    with a good tune and a cooler and regular maintenance ..i dont see why a tranny will puke .....well if you replace the sunshell also that is.

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    I am seriously automatic transmission stupid -- how deep does one need to go to change out a sun shell? Of course this probably shows my stupidity, as once you have the case open, wouldn't it be better to go through the whole thing anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    I am seriously automatic transmission stupid -- how deep does one need to go to change out a sun shell? Of course this probably shows my stupidity, as once you have the case open, wouldn't it be better to go through the whole thing anyway?
    yup, only $69 for the sunshell, but its down in the middle

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    My 02 has a Fuddle 3400. Tranny was rebuilt (even at 45,xxx it was showing a bit of minor wear) with a Beast SS sunshell, Raybesto clutches and a few mods to the valve body. TM was deleted and a TransGo shift kit was installed along with a goodish sized tranny cooler.

    When going from a standing start it revs to ~3k rpm and stays there thru 1st to 2nd to 3rd to OD then at ~40mph goes into lockup (feels like another shift). I lost maybe 2-3 mpg (but mostly cuz I romp on it more).

    It's perfectly streetable. I could DD it if I wanted but I bought another Camaro so I don't put too many miles on it.

    It's the best bang for the buck I've done yet. Just this alone got me a 1.73 60' (previous best was 1.99 - I think it has a 1.6x in it) and a reduction to 12.59 from a 13.00. MPH is still 107-108. This was with a DA of ~2,500 ft in PHX at Speed World.

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    Better stay on top of your rear end launching at that high of a rpm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossbredfoxbody View Post
    Better stay on top of your rear end launching at that high of a rpm.
    Theyre more durable than youre giving them credit for. I run high 10's on my completely factory rearend and suspension, and will be mid-low 10's come this spring when the track re-opens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoscamaroSS View Post
    Theyre more durable than youre giving them credit for. I run high 10's on my completely factory rearend and suspension, and will be mid-low 10's come this spring when the track re-opens.
    no you're just one of the lucky ones.

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    no way of getting around the fact that a 7.5 ring is just too small of contact for the teeth

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    Very true How much stall does he have running 10's

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    It says 3500 in his sig...

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    Yea he's just lucky then.

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    SS3600 yank and 3.73s. tuned and love it. drive it almost daily for a year with no issues. real street friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossbredfoxbody View Post
    Yea he's just lucky then.
    Must be very lucky then, we also have a 99 Z28 with a 408 thats still on the stock rear, and before the 408 swap it was cam only with a 175 shot that would dead hook on the street on a set of 275/40/17 Mt's.

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