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    Confused now B&M only and sid 3200rpm is too high

    Ok I went to order som parts at a local speed shop and they confused the heck out of me They told me I shouln't buy a high stall like that because I didn't have enough HP They were going to sell me a 2200 to 2400rpm and they don't carry Yank only B&M I've asked questions about stll's before and everyone are saying 3200rpm

    I'm thinkin headers high flow cats y pipe exchaust and stall

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    Hood intake an stall for now and th rest next year with a tune probably this strategy for now...... What do I do?????

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    I would contact one of the sponsors on here but I can't see the higher stall hurting you especially if you have future mods coming. I would wait on the hood and make the horsepower first but thats just me..

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    I'd find another/better local shop, or buy online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durango View Post
    Ok I went to order som parts at a local speed shop and they confused the heck out of me They told me I shouln't buy a high stall like that because I didn't have enough HP They were going to sell me a 2200 to 2400rpm and they don't carry Yank only B&M I've asked questions about stll's before and everyone are saying 3200rpm

    I'm thinkin headers high flow cats y pipe exchaust and stall

    OR

    Hood intake an stall for now and th rest next year with a tune probably this strategy for now...... What do I do?????


    That is 100 % BS... A 3000 to 3500 converter works well on a stock A4 LS1. They are just trying to BS you period. I would find someone else, look at a sponsor here or buy online..

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    Yea dont do that, there are auto cars out there with just bolt ons and 4000+ stalls that are running fine
    Last edited by jetaws6; 12-15-2010 at 11:29 AM.

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    step #1... don't ever shop there again because they are clueless...

    step #2... call our sponsors on this site because they know what they are talking about and specialise in our cars...

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    3400 stall here and while I don't DD it I very well could. AAMOF, I'll be driving the 02 to Cali to my sisters for Christmas (800 mile round trip). At lockup it works just like a normal stall.

    The reason I don't DD drive the 02 is 1. I have another car and 2. Stop and go traffic is harder on the engine than racing it is.
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    Called a sponsor

    I called a sponsor on the site and you were right they have no clue All my info I got from u guys was 100% will buy on line frig them Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    3400 stall here and while I don't DD it I very well could. AAMOF, I'll be driving the 02 to Cali to my sisters for Christmas (800 mile round trip). At lockup it works just like a normal stall.

    The reason I don't DD drive the 02 is 1. I have another car and 2. Stop and go traffic is harder on the engine than racing it is.
    If you drive around town do you notice a lot higher rev to start rolling at a light or barely?

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    You have to be careful when dealing with certain shops. They will blow smoke up your backside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durango View Post
    If you drive around town do you notice a lot higher rev to start rolling at a light or barely?
    OH yeah!

    Upon depressing the throttle it goes to ~2500rpm (more if I give it more throttle - I'm talking feather foot here), shifts to 2nd, shifts to 3rd then shifts to OD. At normal part throttle it will shift into lockup (feels like an extra shift) at about 40mph or so. This point is adjustable with programming.

    After lockup (say at hiway speeds) it drives like a normal car.

    Driving around town though it's normal until I hit it; then it goes up to 3500+ rpm, starts roasting the stock tires and runs like a raped ape!

    That puts a smile on this old mans face!

    Example: During the local cruise I got into a stoplight joust with a friend. He was curious (he's basically stock) as to why my car surged ahead (we went from ~10 mph to ~35 mph) then started squealing the tires. I told him that was the engine torque catching up through the tranny with the tires.
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    Find a new shop. You must have looked under "Idiots" in the yellow pages to find those guys as they are totally clueless. Stall that pig. Get a trannie cooler. Reprogram shift points and shift firmness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Find a new shop. You must have looked under "Idiots" in the yellow pages to find those guys as they are totally clueless. Stall that pig. Get a trannie cooler. Reprogram shift points and shift firmness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durango View Post
    Ok I went to order som parts at a local speed shop and they confused the heck out of me They told me I shouln't buy a high stall like that because I didn't have enough HP They were going to sell me a 2200 to 2400rpm and they don't carry Yank only B&M I've asked questions about stll's before and everyone are saying 3200rpm

    I'm thinkin headers high flow cats y pipe exchaust and stall

    OR

    Hood intake an stall for now and th rest next year with a tune probably this strategy for now...... What do I do?????
    I have a low horsepower 2001 Z28, when stock: 298rwhp/290rwtq (@ redline). 3.73 gears

    I purchased a Yank 3000 2.0 str (98% efficiency) and now my numbers are: 291rwhp/325rwtq (@ redline). 3.73 gears

    The vehicle is way more fun to drive, and is alot quicker off the line. If I had to do it all over again, I would have gone with a 3600 stall.

    FIND ANOTHER SHOP!!!!

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    I've run into this with the old school guys.....they pitch a fit when they hear 3500 rpm stall. I ran a 3500 in mine when it was a bolt on/headers car and I could've easily DD it.

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    You'll definately enjoy driving it after the stall converter. I also run a 3400 in mine and it just has a couple of bolt ons, namely headers and an off road Y.
    I had planned a camshaft upgrade that still hasn't happened, so I did the converter first and it's been that way ever since.

    It drives just fine as a near stocker with the converter. Dipped into the 12's on stock rubber with just the above changes. The car was previously stuck at 13.20's with the stock converter. So it's completely changed the attitude of the car, yet still easily driveable, which is actually what the car is for most of the time.

    These LS1's, even in stock form, work well with loose converters. These engines are rather small by todays standards (only 346 cubes) with somewhat large 200cc intake runners they are a bit soggy in power down low (below 25-3000 rpm), and don't make peak torque until close to 4,000 rpm. Not what you want a tight converter behind. Simply put, a 3,000+ converter makes it come alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    You'll definately enjoy driving it after the stall converter. I also run a 3400 in mine and it just has a couple of bolt ons, namely headers and an off road Y.
    I had planned a camshaft upgrade that still hasn't happened, so I did the converter first and it's been that way ever since.

    It drives just fine as a near stocker with the converter. Dipped into the 12's on stock rubber with just the above changes. The car was previously stuck at 13.20's with the stock converter. So it's completely changed the attitude of the car, yet still easily driveable, which is actually what the car is for most of the time.

    These LS1's, even in stock form, work well with loose converters. These engines are rather small by todays standards (only 346 cubes) with somewhat large 200cc intake runners they are a bit soggy in power down low (below 25-3000 rpm), and don't make peak torque until close to 4,000 rpm. Not what you want a tight converter behind. Simply put, a 3,000+ converter makes it come alive.
    this......and I think that's why a lot of the old school guys freak out over the larger stalls. They're just not used to the newer small block and where it likes to make power at. They're used to the old big blocks that were stump pullers down low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0rion View Post
    this......and I think that's why a lot of the old school guys freak out over the larger stalls. They're just not used to the newer small block and where it likes to make power at. They're used to the old big blocks that were stump pullers down low.
    Yep, I still like my stump pullers But the right converter behind an LS1 sure makes it feel bigger than it is.

    Edit: You're familiar with stump pullers, hows the diesel treatin' ya??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Yep, I still like my stump pullers But the right converter behind an LS1 sure makes it feel bigger than it is.

    Edit: You're familiar with stump pullers, hows the diesel treatin' ya??
    loving the duramax...won't ever own a gas burner truck again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0rion View Post
    loving the duramax...won't ever own a gas burner truck again.
    Cool, One of these days I'll have one

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