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whats the difference in headers

This is a discussion on whats the difference in headers within the External Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; i was wondering the performance difference in longtube headers and the headers in the link below...anyone? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/00-02...spagenameZWDVW...

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    whats the difference in headers

    i was wondering the performance difference in longtube headers and the headers in the link below...anyone?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/00-02...spagenameZWDVW

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_formula View Post
    i was wondering the performance difference in longtube headers and the headers in the link below...anyone?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/00-02...spagenameZWDVW
    shorties arent that much better than your stock mani's. . . more power from lt's.

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    headers are probably going to be my next purchase and i have had a few guys suggesting some that are upwards of $600.....way outta my price range at the moment....ive seen some stainless longtubes on ebay for a reasonable price...less than $200....is there something i should know about headers that would cause me to see why people pay so much for them?

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    if you want easy and pretty good quality go with pacesetters ceramic lt's, they usually run 500 for the headers and the y . . . the ebay ones ive actually heard pretty good things about for bein so cheap but i dont know what y pipe fits them . . do a search on here for ebay headers, im pretty theres good thread with real ls1ers installation comments. i dont know much about the more expensive ones except they fit close to perfect i believe.

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    check this thread out:
    Which E-bay Header to buy
    theres an older longer one too i think. i keep lookin for ya.

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    more good info on the ebay ones:
    Some opinions on these headers?

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    im tryin to decide myself between the ebay ones or the pacesetters

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    thanks for helpin out....do i need a y-pipe?? i havnt been under the car except one time at the muffler shop...the muffler looks like a glasspack but the guy exhaust guy said it was slp....i saw the cats under there too....do i need to remove those for the headers?? ..this is all so much different than the old school small blocks im used to messin with,

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_formula View Post
    thanks for helpin out....do i need a y-pipe?? i havnt been under the car except one time at the muffler shop...the muffler looks like a glasspack but the guy exhaust guy said it was slp....i saw the cats under there too....do i need to remove those for the headers?? ..this is all so much different than the old school small blocks im used to messin with,
    i know what ya mean man . . . well if you look under your car on the drivers side youll see a flat portion in the stock y, this will give an idea how restrictive the stock one is. most lt's headers are offroad (no cats). so if you get lts with a offroad y you will have no cats. . . therefore you will need to get your rear o2's deleted on your computer. this is prob the best setup unless you have strict emission regulations where you live.

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    so when i 86 the cats and such will i need a tune on the ecu???...im tryin to do it all in one swoop so im tryin to get an idea as to how much money i need....i was planning on a ls6 manifold after the headers so i kinda wanted to wait for a tune until that was done.

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    yeap . . . and if your plannin on other bolts on i would wait on tune so you can tune only once. maybe frost will chime in here. . . i believe you can send him your computer and hell tune it to what you have done and send it back fast.

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    damn..cause this is my daily driver for now.....im gonna have to just buy all the goods ..install em and get it tuned at the same time.....shouldnt i get it dyno tuned instead of havin someone tweak the box off the car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_formula View Post
    damn..cause this is my daily driver for now.....im gonna have to just buy all the goods ..install em and get it tuned at the same time.....shouldnt i get it dyno tuned instead of havin someone tweak the box off the car?
    well a dyno tune is better, yeah. but, if your like me, i believe the closest dyno tuner is 2-3 hrs away that i know of. frost will prob be a lot cheaper too. id pm him and see what he says.

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    yea ill check him out....im always about spendin less money...

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    hell yeah me too

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    hell im so cheap i almost didnt do the free mods...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GULLETT17 View Post
    im tryin to decide myself between the ebay ones or the pacesetters
    GET THE EBAY HEADERS!!!! I got mine for $240 shipped(Trendy_mans dude) to my door and paid $40 bucks for some a freind of a friend to hack 0ff and weld shut the air fittings and drop the driver side collector down (if not it will hit the floorboard). All in all $280, and they look awesome. Oh, and you will need heat wrap cause 3 of your wires and the clutch line will touch those bad boys. I will post pics....maybe tomorrow when it's light outside lol.

    I'm a cheap ass and took the "risk" and it paid off. Wesman had the same LT's on his car, but painted hem black. They're listed in the TD exhaust sticky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01ws6er View Post
    GET THE EBAY HEADERS!!!! I got mine for $240 shipped(Trendy_mans dude) to my door and paid $40 bucks for some a freind of a friend to hack 0ff and weld shut the air fittings and drop the driver side collector down (if not it will hit the floorboard). All in all $280, and they look awesome. Oh, and you will need heat wrap cause 3 of your wires and the clutch line will touch those bad boys. I will post pics....maybe tomorrow when it's light outside lol.

    I'm a cheap ass and took the "risk" and it paid off. Wesman had the same LT's on his car, but painted hem black. They're listed in the TD exhaust sticky.
    so what if i got a4 in my car....do i still need heat wrap??

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_formula View Post
    so what if i got a4 in my car....do i still need heat wrap??
    It doesn't change the position of your spark plugs silly haha. I'm just kiddin man. With those headers you will. You will be able to see better when I post pics tomorrow, but the primaries are pretty tight to the block and interwoven.

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    i was actually just lookin at some of these headers as well...under $150 for some of em...holy crap i may be able to afford that in the near future.

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