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What is "Full Bolt-Ons"

This is a discussion on What is "Full Bolt-Ons" within the External Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; I've seen many people mention that their cars have full bolt-ons, or that a full bolt-ons ls1 could hang with ...

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    What is "Full Bolt-Ons"

    I've seen many people mention that their cars have full bolt-ons, or that a full bolt-ons ls1 could hang with the new 5.0 GT. I'm pretty much bone stock and want to make my 98 z28 M6 camaro a full bolt-ons ls1. So, what is everything i need to buy to do so? LT's, ORY, Cat-Back, Air Lid, CAI...What else?

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    Everything you mentioned is a good start. Plus a high flowing intake and throttle body. Upgrading to a LS6 intake and ported throttle body would be a cheaper route or you could go with a FAST intake and tb combo. Also a tune would be good when you get everything on. I just got a mail order tune from tunedbyfrost.com and installed my LT's and ORY this weekend and am very happy with the results. If you go with the ORY get the race style headers and get rid of the air pump, engine bay looks so much cleaner without it.

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    My 402 bolted in.

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    Hahaha,,,that's a good one Luos.

    Bolt on's mean different things to different people. Basically my idea is anything that is easily bolted on the outside of the engine that adds power. Nothing internal.

    The simple things you mentioned like headers, exhaust, intake mods etc...would all qualify.

    When things get more involved like camshaft swaps, heads, gears, converters etc....you are past the bolt on stage as far as I'm concerned.

    So the term has gotten somewhat vague anymore. Someone says bolt ons and you just never know what they might be talking about,,,,,like Mr. Luos up there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    My 402 bolted in.
    That aint no "bolt on" Curtis, that's Godzilla taking Tokyo..

    But yes OP "bolt on" mostly means external add ons or mods that don't require tearing into your engine internals..
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    LT's, ORY, Cat-Back, Air Lid, CAI, Intake, and Throttle Body. Anything else besides a 402? haha

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    Forced Induction is "bolt on"...

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    Underdrive pulley. PITA to change, but it bolts on.

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    What is PITA? And what does a underdrive pulley do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98Z28CamaroJG View Post
    What is PITA? And what does a underdrive pulley do?
    Pita= pain in the arss. Under drive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98Z28CamaroJG View Post
    What is PITA? And what does a underdrive pulley do?
    Underdrive pulleys increases the torque and horsepower output of an engine by reducing parasitic drag caused by belt-driven accessories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Underdrive pulleys increases the torque and horsepower output of an engine by reducing parasitic drag caused by belt-driven accessories.
    Does'nt this cause alt charge issues in "around town" driving because the alt does'nt spin fast enough to charge @ low rpm? Just asking..

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    Not sure, I don't have one lol. Seems possible though just from physics.

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    Some kits come with an smaller alternator pulley to bring it back up to speed

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    i'll keep that in mind, sounds like something worth getting haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    Does'nt this cause alt charge issues in "around town" driving because the alt does'nt spin fast enough to charge @ low rpm? Just asking..
    No problems with mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    No problems with mine.
    which one do you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    No problems with mine.
    That's cool Curtis I was asking cuz I'm clueless on how they work or what they do bro..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    That's cool Curtis I was asking cuz I'm clueless on how they work or what they do bro..
    You asked a good question.
    They do slow down the overall speed the crank spins the accessories. Could be a problem on a car that is a daily driver, but I have driven mine 100 miles in a day without issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by lsgunner28 View Post
    which one do you have?
    ASP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    No problems with mine.
    Ditto, ASP is what I have had on mine for a few years as well.

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