is this too good to be true

**blk_jaws** · 10-24-2008, 08:11 PM

look at these headers

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02...spagenameZWDVW

**ls1camino** · 10-24-2008, 08:14 PM

All Show No Go...they flow like crap, if you plan on doing anything with your car you shouldn't skimp on things.

**blk_jaws** · 10-24-2008, 08:18 PM

I DONT SKIMP ON NOTHING, I already have headers. I just came across these and thought I would see what people thought

**jknelms** · 10-24-2008, 08:19 PM

Doesn't Spaz or someone have those?

**ls1camino** · 10-25-2008, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by blk_jaws

I DONT SKIMP ON NOTHING, I already have headers. I just came across these and thought I would see what people thought

Calm down dude, how was I supposed to know? Look at your title...it makes me think you were looking for opinions on them before you bought them.

**squee** · 10-25-2008, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by ls1camino

All Show No Go...they flow like crap, if you plan on doing anything with your car you shouldn't skimp on things.

You have any experience with em? I'm guessing no...So don't say what you don't know.

I can't tell ya how they perform, only what I've read, but from what I've read, they flow just fine. Several people on Tech use them, and I just bought a set to try out with my 383. For $175, WITH the smooth bellow (was gonna get any way) you can't beat it. Its about like paying $115 for the headers. Anyway, I have them sitting in my garage right now and they are NICE! The quality is outstanding, welds are awesome, tubes are actually 1 3/4" and 3" unlike most, and the flanges are VERY thick. The only problems I've ever heard of from them is the left side is angled up slightly and will require either a little heat, or slight modification to your Y. I didn't care about that since I have a torch, was gonna wrap them, AND was gonna use a true dual setup anyway, so the Y doesn't matter.

**blk_jaws** · 10-25-2008, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by ls1camino

Calm down dude, how was I supposed to know? Look at your title...it makes me think you were looking for opinions on them before you bought them.

Well, I didnt spend $14k on a car to add shitty upgrades to it!

**jknelms** · 10-25-2008, 06:03 PM

i believe Spaz or someone, has these same Headers...

**LS1TransHed** · 10-25-2008, 06:09 PM

If they actually do perform well... they have attention because of the price

**squee** · 10-25-2008, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by blk_jaws

Well, I didnt spend $14k on a car to add shitty upgrades to it!

You put SLP headers on it...

**N20LT4** · 10-25-2008, 07:55 PM

Man you LS1 guys are lucky. I wish they offered headers for the LTx motor at that price.

**01ws6er** · 10-25-2008, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by ls1camino

All Show No Go...they flow like crap, if you plan on doing anything with your car you shouldn't skimp on things.

Where are you getting this info from? We were discussing this at a recent meet and someone told me that his friend with a 408 stroker, n/a, only gained 6whp and about 8rwtq switching from pacesetters to kooks 1 7/8 so...

Originally Posted by squee

You have any experience with em? I'm guessing no...So don't say what you don't know.

I can't tell ya how they perform, only what I've read, but from what I've read, they flow just fine. Several people on Tech use them, and I just bought a set to try out with my 383. For $175, WITH the smooth bellow (was gonna get any way) you can't beat it. Its about like paying $115 for the headers. Anyway, I have them sitting in my garage right now and they are NICE! The quality is outstanding, welds are awesome, tubes are actually 1 3/4" and 3" unlike most, and the flanges are VERY thick. The only problems I've ever heard of from them is the left side is angled up slightly and will require either a little heat, or slight modification to your Y. I didn't care about that since I have a torch, was gonna wrap them, AND was gonna use a true dual setup anyway, so the Y doesn't matter.

Thank you! Oh, and the LPP brand headers on tech look EXACTLY the same as mine but with a merge collector and the AIR and EGR fittings in the right spot.

Originally Posted by jknelms

i believe Spaz or someone, has these same Headers...

I have them, and like others I too was skeptical...They fit very well and there are TONS of threads on what you have to modify if you chose to do so. I hate telling people to do a search, but there is some really good info in a lot of threads about these headers!

**jknelms** · 10-25-2008, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by 01ws6er

I have them, and like others I too was skeptical...They fit very well and there are TONS of threads on what you have to modify if you chose to do so. I hate telling people to do a search, but there is some really good info in a lot of threads about these headers!

well, i remember a thread not too long ago, someone brought them up or something. Spaz said he had them shipped to his door for under 200, and showed that same exact ebay post of what they were. called them No named long tubes...or something like that.

**01ws6er** · 10-25-2008, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by jknelms

well, i remember a thread not too long ago, someone brought them up or something. Spaz said he had them shipped to his door for under 200, and showed that same exact ebay post of what they were. called them No named long tubes...or something like that.

They pretty much are no name LT's, but compare them side by side to the LPP's and they look identical minues the mearge collector and the AIR/EGR fittings being in the right spot on the LPP's. I got mine for like $240 shipped I believe...

Spaz does have them too.

**9t8z28** · 10-26-2008, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by squee

You have any experience with em? I'm guessing no...So don't say what you don't know.

I can't tell ya how they perform, only what I've read, but from what I've read, they flow just fine. Several people on Tech use them, and I just bought a set to try out with my 383. For $175, WITH the smooth bellow (was gonna get any way) you can't beat it. Its about like paying $115 for the headers. Anyway, I have them sitting in my garage right now and they are NICE! The quality is outstanding, welds are awesome, tubes are actually 1 3/4" and 3" unlike most, and the flanges are VERY thick. The only problems I've ever heard of from them is the left side is angled up slightly and will require either a little heat, or slight modification to your Y. I didn't care about that since I have a torch, was gonna wrap them, AND was gonna use a true dual setup anyway, so the Y doesn't matter.

Good luck trying to bend them. It is possible, but the grade stainless that they are made from is very very hard.

**squee** · 10-26-2008, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by 9t8z28

Good luck trying to bend them. It is possible, but the grade stainless that they are made from is very very hard.

I'm not really worried. I have a huge acetylene torch that will work. I had to do the same on the Magnaflow stainless system on my truck.

**blk_jaws** · 10-26-2008, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by squee

You put SLP headers on it...

There pretty DAMN expensive arent they? I never read reviews on them so I was in the dark about ground clearance and stuff like that! But I did pay a lot of money on em so I would'nt say a shitty upgrade if you dont know all the facts.

**440 rwhp trans am** · 10-26-2008, 11:13 AM

they look good. shit for the price why not try'em. and as for the dont skimp on anything comment, some of the big brands are pure shit. look at the way its made not the brand stamped on it.

**squee** · 10-26-2008, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by blk_jaws

There pretty DAMN expensive arent they? I never read reviews on them so I was in the dark about ground clearance and stuff like that! But I did pay a lot of money on em so I would'nt say a shitty upgrade if you dont know all the facts.

Originally Posted by 440 rwhp trans am

they look good. shit for the price why not try'em. and as for the dont skimp on anything comment, some of the big brands are pure shit. look at the way its made not the brand stamped on it.

Exactly. Just cause they were expensive, doesn't mean there good. Anything with SLPs name on its expensive. Just cause you paid alot for something and didn't know anything about them doesn't mean they're good...

**01ws6er** · 10-26-2008, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by 440 rwhp trans am

they look good. shit for the price why not try'em. and as for the dont skimp on anything comment, some of the big brands are pure shit. look at the way its made not the brand stamped on it.

Originally Posted by squee

Exactly. Just cause they were expensive, doesn't mean there good. Anything with SLPs name on its expensive. Just cause you paid alot for something and didn't know anything about them doesn't mean they're good...