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Spark plug tech information and understanding them

This is a discussion on Spark plug tech information and understanding them within the External Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by mrr23 second dyno - you're going to attest the 20 rwhp gain was from your plugs only? ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    second dyno - you're going to attest the 20 rwhp gain was from your plugs only? the plugs got rid of that huge dip in the curve? again a supercharged motor.

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    I'm gonna speak for what I can see. I tune and read these graphs daily. This is clearly a motor that was knocking on one pull and getting cleaner on the next... there is still some knock though. You can claim plug all you want, but this is absolutely how knock shows up on the graph, not some weak plug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    fourth dyno - wow! your plugs only gave that much gain? 39 rwhp. man, sign me up. what kind of vehicle was this on?


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    with nothing to corroborate here, this looks dead-up like a normal tuning session.

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    exactly just like knock and the PCM pulling timing. here's one from my wife's car two pulls with no changes. amazing how much power i picked up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponX_Perf View Post
    LOL... actually it's because I'm sure the owners of this site have a stake in NGK.com, infact I'll put money on it. They have banned several attempts at me doing a third party dyno. Infact I'll bet this post gets deleted.

    http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...d.php?t=113434
    take your head out of your own ass and grow some balls, will you.
    The owner is nowhere associated w/ NGK nor the moderators as you imply... I did mention I bougt new NGK plugs, but my engine is out of the car... perfect timing to change them... I also offered to try yours and put my engine on a friends engine dyno... easy to swap plugs since the engine is not in a car... you didn't feel like offering anything for doing those tests.

    We had given you (should I say your troll account) a ban for trolling... your freedom to express yourself and marketing of your products have never been deprived.
    As for the attemps to you having the dyno done by a 3rd party, you've been the only one finding things not to pay up for what you say you will do... I guess it's the same way you wouldn't post real data on your claims... just talk, no walk.

    It's purely false allegations about removing your sponsorship.
    You paid for sponsorship, not immunity against questioning and criticism, and you are getting what you paid for... exposure and the liberty to show how your product stands out... yet, as mentioned, you seem to be the only one hindering yourself, by not posting data on your accomplishments, and we decided to check on your own references, because your claims we're being validated... it's your problem you posted references of people that said you were BSing again on the internet (advice= chose your references wisely)

    As I said, grow some balls, take your head out of your own ass and stop bitching like a little baby whining all the time. Take criticism like a man.

    It improves your credibility by constantly going back and forth, bitching about us on other forums, while distorting the truth.
    You're a f***in disgrace to the Canadian community.
    You make me think of ARE's Nick Agostino... an asshole just full of BS. either that or you have some serious issues and I recommend you seek professional psychiatric help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    after seeing how you measured your plug, i decided to measure the autolite racing AR-94 plug i will be using in my motor. i did three readings. here's the pics of the results. i tried to mimic the exact way you laid your terminals on your plug.

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    That's right!! That's why we run "Racing" plugs in our ALL our racing motors. Along with most of the major NHRA racers.



    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponX_Perf View Post

    For example, with our ignition coils people always ask us. How much horsepower? My typical response is. It depends on the application. I won't lie, there have been people that saw 0hp but there have been others that have seen 10, 25, 35, 45, 200+ rwhp with an ignition coil swap. In our opinion, it's just not fair to release data on a 200+rwhp increase. It just isn't a common number or a common result.
    LOL




    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponX_Perf View Post
    Yes they are used by a couple well known drag racing teams. (7-8 second NMRA vehicles).
    Can't name the "well known teams". . . . . . . . . . It's a secret?




    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponX_Perf View Post
    LOL... actually it's because I'm sure the owners of this site have a stake in NGK.com, infact I'll put money on it. They have banned several attempts at me doing a third party dyno. Infact I'll bet this post gets deleted.
    WHAT COMPLETE BULLSHIT!! I HAVE STAYED AWAY FROM YOUR NON-SENSE PURPOSELY TO LET THE BS GET WEEDED OUT BEFORE I RESPONDED BUT I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY LONGER!!!

    Sorry to inform you but if you look at any of my post's including plug pics I highly recommend people on this site to NOT use NGK PLUGS. . . . . . . . And to run Autolite's AR racing plug in any high cylinder pressure application.

    Your dumb little pics with a multi meter. . . . . . I challenge our fellow members to take some readings of ANY plug with the way you have the leads laying on the contacts. . . . . . . . . You'll get 20 different readings due to differences in contact area and pressure.

    So are ANY NHRA teams or let me change it ANY Pro Stock engine builders using your superior plugs. . . . . . . . Because the rule book only stats that the MSD #7530T box be used in a certain wiring. They can use any plug. Their class usually has a spread of a few .030 of a second in a 16 car field. Why wouldn't ONE builder be taking advantage of your plug. . . . . . . . .








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    Just an unfortunate individual. Total bullshit. Cannot stay facts based but makes the "facts" up as he goes along. Total loser with no ethics nor class. Cut and paste technician. Has been exposed as a liar of biblical proportions. Portrays himself as a victim when the facts and reality reflect just the opposite. Portrays his "products" as superior and does not supply a shred of credible data to back it up after weeks of request to do so. Has to create and fabricate any justification for being exposed here by creating the myth we are aligned somehow with NGK.COM. WTF? NGK has no banner nor sponsorship here. More insanity and total bullshit to hide the truth. And the truth is Mark is a liar, WeaponX makes outrageous claims and cannot back them up IMHO.

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    I'm still waiting for the answers to all my initial questions in a coherent way, making sense electrically speaking.
    I sense that he mixes some essential terms while talking about the product... things like potential, voltage, current, power, etc. If you really into the field, you won't just mix them up and say bs sentences.
    Not to mention the refusal to show any data, claims, even if prototype... just turns around the pot like a crazy politician.

    Until shown otherwise, I stand with the standing.
    I'm very straight forward and non judgemental... look @ all my 11k+ more threads.

    Find me 1 business that has a better product that outstands the competition and refuses to post data/info supporting the fact that their product is better.
    Only politicians do that.

    I can smell a bullshitter a mile away... and was interested in the product asking you quite specific technical questions, which some we simply avoided or answered vaguely, and not showing any meat to support all the talking.
    There are too many con-artists in the world... we don't need them here.

    If you aren't one, then do something about it, grow up, and show us how your product is better.

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    you still haven't fully answered my questions and posted data... and you have the guts to say I don't read and can't discuss things...

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    You own NGK so you are biased.

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