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Prioritizing My Mods... a little help please.

This is a discussion on Prioritizing My Mods... a little help please. within the External Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS You'd be better off putting money towards a used LS6 intake. and a ported TB...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    You'd be better off putting money towards a used LS6 intake.
    and a ported TB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naaman View Post
    Okay... so it is one or the other. What about cold air intake that breaths from the bottom? Is the horsepower gain cumulative with that gained from the lid?
    CAI are good for track use only IMHO. For a DD or street/track use you have a chance to get hit by rain which = puddles. CAIs have been know to suck up water into the intakes which can lead to hydrolock. This will kill your engine. I would stay away from CAIs unless you are really sure you'll never drive in the rain.


    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    You'd be better off putting money towards a used LS6 intake.
    Quote Originally Posted by BashamWS6 View Post
    and a ported TB

    This. I picked up my LS6 intake for 325 on craigslist.

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    Ported TB is next on my list. I just haven't found one with a solid reputation. I asked about Katech, but didn't get much feed back. Can anyone recommend a brand?

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    it seems like i read somewhere that katech is good.
    but you could always get a good local shop to do it for you? (if you have that option)

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    I would recommend for a newbie (not saying you are but...), start from the ground up. Thats how i started.
    You got plenty of power to start. Chassis and suspention and then work you way to the motor.
    Start small and work your way up. Learn your car. Its a process. Have fun.
    Last edited by JoshuaGrooms83; 11-15-2010 at 01:30 PM.

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    I've got a Sam Strano suspension on it already. I've also got the SFCs but will be installing them sometime next week.

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    LCAs, rear end, sway bars, torque arm, QA1 shocks, ummm driveshaft...the list goes on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BashamWS6 View Post
    LCAs, rear end, sway bars, torque arm, QA1 shocks, ummm driveshaft...the list goes on...
    QA1 shocks are mostly used for drag racing set-ups if I'm not mistaken and aren't that great for the street. I could be wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naaman View Post
    Ported TB is next on my list. I just haven't found one with a solid reputation. I asked about Katech, but didn't get much feed back. Can anyone recommend a brand?
    PM sent

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    Quote Originally Posted by BashamWS6 View Post
    LCAs, rear end, sway bars, torque arm, QA1 shocks, ummm driveshaft...the list goes on...
    CF Driveshaft is on my medium term list... rear end if my current one breaks...

    Here's whats on it already:

    • Adjustable Koni shocks – front (tuned by Sam Strano)
    • Heavy-duty Bilstein shocks – rear (also from Sam Strano)
    • Adjustable lower control arms – alloy billet
    • C4 “sawblade” alloy Corvette wheels – 8.5” front and 9.5” rear
    • Michlilen Pilot Sport A/S Plus – 255-45-17 front and 275-40-17 rear
    • Magnaflow stainless steel cat-back exhaust with custom tips
    • SLP air lid with K&N filter
    • Skip shift eliminator
    • NGK’s
    • UMI chrome moly SFCs coming this weekend

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    Alright, research continues.

    I've been looking at more ways to make my car exactly what I want it to be. I have been reading up on this and other forums and talking to friends and other enthusiasts.

    My list of desired mods will be expanding to look like this:

    What's already on the car:

    • Adjustable Koni shocks – front (tuned by Sam Strano)
    • Heavy-duty Bilstein shocks – rear (also from Sam Strano)
    • Adjustable lower control arms – alloy billet
    • C4 “sawblade” alloy Corvette wheels – 8.5” front and 9.5” rear
    • Michlilen Pilot Sport A/S Plus – 255-45-17 front and 275-40-17 rear
    • Magnaflow stainless steel cat-back exhaust with custom tips
    • SLP air lid with K&N filter
    • Skip shift eliminator
    • NGK’s
    • UMI chrome moly SFCs

    What I would like to add:

    • S3 Ported Thottle Body
    • Smooth Bellow (for looks)
    • LS6 Intake Manifold
    • Street Legal Headers and Mid-Pipe (X, H, or Y... not sure yet)
    • K-Member
    • Cam (I would like to get as much power under the curve as possible without harming fuel economy)
    • Balance/Blueprint/Polish Pistons and Rotating Assy
    • 12-Bolt Rear End w/3.42 gears (I like the stock ratio)
    • C5 Thin Spoke 5-Spoke Stainless Steel wheels
    • Dyno Tune
    • Carbon Fiber Driveshaft
    • Billet Flywheel
    • High Performance Clutch (LS7, maybe)
    • Short Throw Shifter
    • Sway Bars

    Based on what's there, am I missing any supporting mods that are necessary/recommended?
    Last edited by Naaman; 01-22-2011 at 03:17 PM.

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    Save your $$ on the skip shift eliminator. If you get a tune by Frost, that is included in deleting rear O2 senors and installing better tables freeing up more HP. Its not required to do a tune after headers install but if you want to get rid of the CES light do so.

    Nice build list btw

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    Yeah, the skip shift came with the car when I bought it. My vision is to make the car as sweet as possible without diminishing daily usability and practicality. I would like replace stock parts with better parts and make power through improving efficiency and reducing friction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naaman View Post
    Alright, research continues.

    I've been looking at more ways to make my car exactly what I want it to be. I have been reading up on this and other forums and talking to friends and other enthusiasts.

    My list of desired mods will be expanding to look like this:

    What's already on the car:

    • Adjustable Koni shocks – front (tuned by Sam Strano)
    • Heavy-duty Bilstein shocks – rear (also from Sam Strano)
    • Adjustable lower control arms – alloy billet
    • C4 “sawblade” alloy Corvette wheels – 8.5” front and 9.5” rear
    • Michlilen Pilot Sport A/S Plus – 255-45-17 front and 275-40-17 rear
    • Magnaflow stainless steel cat-back exhaust with custom tips
    • SLP air lid with K&N filter
    • Skip shift eliminator
    • NGK’s
    • UMI chrome moly SFCs

    What I would like to add:

    • S3 Ported Thottle Body
    • Smooth Bellow (for looks)
    • LS6 Intake Manifold
    • Street Legal Headers and Mid-Pipe (X, H, or Y... not sure yet)
    • K-Member
    • Cam (I would like to get as much power under the curve as possible without harming fuel economy)
    • Balance/Blueprint/Polish Pistons and Rotating Assy
    • 12-Bolt Rear End w/3.42 gears (I like the stock ratio)
    • C5 Thin Spoke 5-Spoke Stainless Steel wheels
    • Dyno Tune
    • Carbon Fiber Driveshaft
    • Billet Flywheel
    • High Performance Clutch (LS7, maybe)
    • Short Throw Shifter
    • Sway Bars

    Based on what's there, am I missing any supporting mods that are necessary/recommended?

    If your going to tare apart might as well go forged internals....

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    Forged Internals? My understanding is that forged internals are stronger which makes them able to handle more power, but is that a worthwhile expenditure for bolt on power? Will it actually do anything for my car?

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    No it is not. If you plan on going bigger some day down the road, now would be an opportune time to get forged internals though since the motor would be apart anyway.

    I think that was the point of him stating that.

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    That's what I figured. As of right now, I don't see this car being anything other than a daily driver. I want it to be awesome, but retain it's practicality for that purpose.

    I want to reduce unsprung weight as much as possible, reduce drivetrain losses, power lost to friction, and maximize combustion efficiency.

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    def think ls6 intake would be the first mod. as far as a shifter i love my mgw. well worth the money IMO. shifts are very precise

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    list of mods looks pretty good. I say though since you already got/getting the Koni fronts, just get the rears too. The Koni sa rears are only 400ish brand new so you might as well.
    I like Road racing and AutoX so i set my car up more towards that. but its still my DD and comfort is still kinda important. Got a couple of kids that ride in the back alot

    Since im an auto, my rear and DS is somewhat safe on relativly mild power gains. PLus i plan on not doing strickly drag so drivetrain shock is minimal. For you M6 guys, not so much. My 3200 stall still isnt gonna do what you guys can do with a clutch drop lol. Plus im keeping the light weight rearend for jus that. lighter weight. and since i like gas milage and higher speed runs, im keeping my 2.73 gears for now. I might consider a
    CF drivshaft though. Ive thought about that before

    here what i got on or on the way in the mail for a pretty basic bolt on list. no motor mods internally. So far it looks like your setting up your car is almost like mine give or take.
    145amp truck ALT
    Ls6 steam tubes and blocks
    EGR/AIR block off
    ls6 intake manifold
    vision motorworks 80mm throttle body
    Koni sa shocks f/R (used)
    UMI RR K-member
    UMI tunnel brace with loop
    UMI Trans Relo Mount
    UMI Upper A arms
    UMI Lower A arms poly/roto
    UMI Adj PH rod
    UMI Panhard relocation bar
    UMI Adj Torque Arm
    UMI Torque arm bolts
    UMI 2pt bolt on Subframe connectors
    F/P LCA Relocation braket
    BMR hollow sway bars 35/22
    Vogtland 1.2" lowering springs
    ls1 to C5 brake bracket
    C5 D/S Front Rotos
    Hawks HPS Pads f&r
    revmax 3200 TC Stage 5
    B&M Trans cooler kit
    Shiftglo trans temp gauge
    speedinc Gauge adaptor
    upperball joints
    Kumho 285/40ZR17 SPT
    Kumho 275/40ZR17 SPT
    SFI Flexplate
    ARP flexplate bolt
    ARP torque convert bolts
    Hidden antenna
    Trans filter
    Russel steel brake lines
    wheel center cap decal
    Prothane motor bushings
    New wheel hubs
    OBX LT headers with EGR/AIR
    LLP Catted Ypipe
    80 series Flowmaster muffler
    NGK tr6ix
    MSD plug wires
    SLP Lid
    SLP MAF
    SLP bellows
    Last edited by JoshuaGrooms83; 02-15-2011 at 01:50 PM.

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    Thread was long so I didnt read it all but a note on the pulleys. Friend has them on his 98 bird and he sometimes has issues with the alternator pulley and his HIDs, but for the most part everything is ok

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