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03-25-2006, 06:18 PM #1
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Red & Dk Gray- 2002 WS6, '08 G8 GT
Cold Air Induction Kit Options '02 WS6
I have seen this Volant system on several cars on LS1.com. Have also seen the K&N Generation II FIPK .
I'm wondering how do these (See Links Below) compare with the traditional SLP or other Air Lids? What do you prefer? I know that a lot have just the lid due to cost.
The 3 kits I am considering are all in the $300 range
Main Question:
If the $300 cost was not an issue, which would you choose and why?
I was originally leaning toward the SLP Cold Pack
http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...47&BIG=21047-1
I'm steering away from this kit as the duct will partially block air flow to the radiator. Live in Central FL. and gets Hot here in the Summer.
Now I am considering the Volant
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/inc/sdetail/30698
Also considering the K&N Kit;
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/inc/sdetail/14138
I have heard good and a few negative about the K&N
Please be honest, if you think it's a P.O.S. Why?
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03-25-2006, 08:31 PM #2
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black- 2000 nhra edition formula
i have the volant. its a sealed system and i dynoed 5 more rwhp over a slp lid.
2000 nhra edition formula
a few bolt ons, 379 rwhp
11.96 @113.25
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03-25-2006, 08:51 PM #3
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Originally Posted by nhraformula
5 More RWHP over the SLP lid, approx how much over a stock lid & housing would that be?
Does the Volant come with a smooth bellows like the SLP & K&N Kits?
Do you have the WS6 Ram Air Hood? If not, do you know if the Volant will fit the R/A Hood?
I'm still bone stock except for the OEM style K&N replacement filter.
Thanx,
Ray
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03-25-2006, 09:14 PM #4
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black- 2000 nhra edition formula
Originally Posted by RainMan
i have a formula, non ram air.
if anything, youll need alittle weather strip to make it seal good.
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03-25-2006, 10:50 PM #5
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Red & Dk Gray- 2002 WS6, '08 G8 GT
Originally Posted by nhraformula
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03-26-2006, 03:02 PM #6
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Originally Posted by RainMan
In order to get my box sealed to my hood, I've purchased some brass pipe insulation from Lowe's. It's a dark gray tube of foam that's split down the middle with tape adhesive in the gap. It's quite pliable and can easily be cut to fit. I've slipped the foam directly over the rubber tubing that comes with the box. Seals very nicely with the WS6 hood now.
Marc
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03-26-2006, 04:02 PM #7
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Originally Posted by nytmare
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04-02-2006, 11:37 AM #8
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Originally Posted by RainMan
Anyone else have inputs on the above listed Kits?
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04-02-2006, 04:59 PM #9
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Black- 2002 WS6
K&N looks badass in my opinion. Volant looks bulky and out of place, and If I read the above post right it doesn't seal right unless you buy some extra stuff?
Screw that. I don't know the performance numbers on the K&N, but unless
they absoulutely suck, thats the system I'm getting.
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04-03-2006, 10:36 AM #10
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Originally Posted by 02BlackWS6
The Volant work every bit as good as a lid and filter (some tests show that it works better by a few hp) and looks bad ass!
Marc
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04-05-2006, 06:06 PM #11
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Anyone here use the Volant system withthe SLP HO ram air hood?
If so, did you have to do anythign to it? trim it? use more foam insulation/seal ?
thanks
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04-08-2006, 06:13 PM #12
Does the Volant system come with a lid or does it seal directly to the hood?
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04-08-2006, 07:56 PM #13
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Originally Posted by tajoe
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04-09-2006, 10:54 AM #14
Well that blows my plans of custum painting fuel rail covers and intake lid to match. But, would I take performence over looks? Well.......YES!
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04-09-2006, 08:49 PM #15
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Black/Black- 2000 Trans Am WS6 A4
I'm kinda new to performance cars... but what is the 'lid'? Everyone always talks about upgrading to the SLP or whatnot... is this simply just a different housing for the air filter that the ram air is compatible with, or what?
also, is the SLP lid the same as the stock WS6 setup?
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04-11-2006, 08:22 AM #16
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Originally Posted by ScrapMaker
Marc
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04-11-2006, 03:13 PM #17
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Black/Black- 2000 Trans Am WS6 A4
so an aftermarket lid is good for what, 5hp?
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04-12-2006, 06:59 AM #18
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Originally Posted by ScrapMaker
BTW... All lids are pretty much the same. Find one you like the looks of and has a decent price. You can usually find one for sale from time to time in the classifidies sections on the various LS1 forums.
Marc
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04-12-2006, 07:14 AM #19
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Black/Black- 2000 Trans Am WS6 A4
so the WS6 stock lid is the same as the regular trans am? and I wonder why they would have those 'fins' that slow down the air... is it to block water, or what?
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04-24-2006, 11:47 PM #20
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Have you looked into the Super Sucker Ram Air/Austin Ram Air? People have had good luck with that over on Ls1Tech. Its like a Fast Toys Ram Air but with a big scoop under the front grille to pick up cold air. Try a google search on it for more info too.
Another setup that worked good but is no longer made as far as I know is the Brian Green Ram Air that utilized your OEM WS6 hood vents. It proved equally effcient as far as et drops and mph increases as a Fast Toys or SSRA. People claim to drop around .2 in the quarter and gain 1-2mph with either one of the three.
Also check out installuniversity.com (maybe with one L) for a good writeup on the Fast Toys to give you and idea of the cold air scoop type intakes.
Edit: The SSRA is placed father away from the Rad. than the Fast Toys, thus most say it doesn't effect coolant temps and being that it sucks air from in front, intake temps remain low.
Many go back in forth in regards to a Fast Toys increasing coolant and intake temps. Though intake temps have been recorded higher than stock at idle, they quickly cool down once moving.
I have spent a lot of time research the most efficient intake setup for the F-Bodies. With an SS I'd run an SSRA b/c the OEM setup really doesn;t work too good, a WS6, I'd try and source a Brian Green Ram Air first to use the good position of the OEM scoops, if not that, then a SSRA second.
Just my 2 cents...
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