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This is a discussion on Bassani Shorty Headers.... within the External Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; I'm planning on buying a set of Bassani shorty headers w/ the Y pipe and high flow cats. I need ...

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    Bassani Shorty Headers....



    I'm planning on buying a set of Bassani shorty headers w/ the Y pipe and high flow cats. I need some feedback on this set and what is the difference between the long tube headers and shorty headers? Any feedback or information will be helpful...
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    if you're going to take off your stock manifolds for ANY reason, you should put Long Tube headers on. they offer probably 10-15 more hp than shorties, keep in mind they arent legal in all states but they will be the best bang for the buck, if you go with a brand like pacesetter

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss~zoso~ss View Post
    if you're going to take off your stock manifolds for ANY reason, you should put Long Tube headers on. they offer probably 10-15 more hp than shorties, keep in mind they arent legal in all states but they will be the best bang for the buck, if you go with a brand like pacesetter
    I saw this to the best of my knowlage:
    LT aren't leagal in any state. Federal law dictats that you must have cats and that cannot adjust the placment of the cats and if you put LTs on then you are moving the placement of them.

    IF i am wrong let me know but i am failry certian of this.

    but they do give better numbers for N/A cars. as for F/I cars i "gather" that shorties are better... why they are I have no clue but that's what I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageSS View Post
    You can't go wrong with Bassani shorty.
    I thought Bassani made mid legnth headers for LS1 f bods. If they are shorties then I disagree. Total waste of money and effort.

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    they are called optimum length headers. i have them on the wife's car. here's the dyno results. only mod was the borla 3" adjustable catback.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    they are called optimum length headers. i have them on the wife's car. here's the dyno results. only mod was the borla 3" adjustable catback.

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    They're either shorty, mid or long tube headers. I don't care what Bassani calls em. There is no "optimum" legnth header.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    They're either shorty, mid or long tube headers. I don't care what Bassani calls em. There is no "optimum" legnth header.

    so, there are only three kinds of headers according to you then. guess, i should call daryl bassani and tell him he named his stuff wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    so, there are only three kinds of headers according to you then. guess, i should call daryl bassani and tell him he named his stuff wrong.
    I'm guessing they're mids, they're the only Bassani one's i've seen for LS1's.

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    here's what they look like






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    Yes they're considered mids like the Mac's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Yes they're considered mids like the Mac's.
    are they carb legal??

    also the poster of this topic is from cali. only headers he can get any stay legal is shorties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    are they carb legal??

    also the poster of this topic is from cali. only headers he can get any stay legal is shorties.
    They are definately not carb legal. Mid legnth headers move the location of the cats just like Mac mids and long tubes. The Bassani "mids or Optimums" whatever you wanna call em cant use the stock y pipe and cats. Wont pass Cali emissions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02BLKSS View Post

    I'm planning on buying a set of Bassani shorty headers w/ the Y pipe and high flow cats. I need some feedback on this set and what is the difference between the long tube headers and shorty headers? Any feedback or information will be helpful...
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    Basically to answer your question those headers are not shorty headers and will not pass Cali emissions. Unless you have a hook up or plan on changing them just for the inspection you should look into the JBA shorties. I think Edelbrock makes shorties as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    they are called optimum length headers. i have them on the wife's car. here's the dyno results. only mod was the borla 3" adjustable catback.

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    Wait wait wait...you lost torque?~!

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    wait, wait, wait... no i didn't.




    torque spike at the beginning of the before run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    Wait wait wait...you lost torque?~!
    In the case of most headers, you will sacrifice some low-end torque for some top-end horsepower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Basically to answer your question those headers are not shorty headers and will not pass Cali emissions. Unless you have a hook up or plan on changing them just for the inspection you should look into the JBA shorties. I think Edelbrock makes shorties as well.
    I 2nd that!

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    So what is the best header package to buy that will give the most horsepower? I'm not really worry about the price before I put headers on my car I really want to install the best headers out there that will not leak or have any problems in the long run. Thanks for the info guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02BLKSS View Post
    So what is the best header package to buy that will give the most horsepower? I'm not really worry about the price before I put headers on my car I really want to install the best headers out there that will not leak or have any problems in the long run. Thanks for the info guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackLT1Z28 View Post
    In the case of most headers, you will sacrifice some low-end torque for some top-end horsepower.
    no that doesn't happen. look alot closer at the graph. there was a spike at the beginning of the before run. look at the entire torque graph. there was no loss anywhere.

    you would have to go a really large primary tube on the header to lose torque going from cast manifolds.

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