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    HEY GUYS IM THINKIN OF GETTIN TRUE DUALS WITH SUM PACESETTER HEADERS BUT I JUST WANT YOUR GUYS OPINION IF ITS REALLY WORTH SPENDING HELLA BREAD ON A TD SET UP OR JUST GO WITH A CATBACK?? ARE THE GAINS REALLY WORTH IT WITH TD'S?? i had in mind of getting the texas speed true duals but man how bad will i scrape?? is it best to just get a full custom set up?
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    def worth it for the TD's.....you wont be dissapointed

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    Maybe this can help in your decision

    A 2.75” (stock) single system is good for a 310hp engine with zero loss…
    A 3” Single system is good for a 370hp engine with zero loss…
    A 3.5” Single system is good for a 503hp engine with zero loss…
    A 4” Single system is good for a 657hp engine with zero loss…
    A 2.25” dual system is good for a 457hp engine with zero loss…
    A 2.5” dual system is good for a 513hp engine with zero loss…
    A 3” dual system is good for a 812hp engine with zero loss

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    Can you explain loss? So if you make 600 HP at the crank you lose HP if you only have a three in. cat back? How much.

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    TD's pwn but there hard to make em work on f-bodys

    I had TDs on my 88 Scottsdale 305 5 speed sounded like nascar.

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    I DON'T KNOW.

    A Y-PIPE SET-UP ISN'T BAD OTHER THAN THEY DON'T ALWAYS FLOW ENOUGH FOR NITROUS CARS OR BLOWN CARS.
    FOR MOST N/A APPLICATIONS, A Y-PIPE WILL FLOW MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR YOUR SET-UP. UNLESS YOU HAVE AN INSANE N/A SET-UP, OR A MAX. 346 BUILD.




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    Well the Pacesetter headers are SHIT!

    And true duals for what a bolt on car? Not needed on a street car with minor bolt on mods.

    Most loose power and only gain noise.
    Don't be afraid of the bottle!!! Be afraid of your tune!!!

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    whats cheaper true duals? or....not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    Well the Pacesetter headers are SHIT!

    And true duals for what a bolt on car? Not needed on a street car with minor bolt on mods.

    Most loose power and only gain noise.



    Pacesetter LS1 F-Body headers are one of the best LT headers for the price.
    I guess no one that puts duals on a bolt-on car will ever mod beyond that.

    Looking to purchase full exhaust?? Motor back??
    Planning on future mods??
    Get Pacesetter F-body longtubes and true duals. The motor will respond GREAT to internal mods with that set-up.
    Or you could drop a bunch of $$ on an expensive header set-up and a weaker flowing y-pipe set-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    Well the Pacesetter headers are SHIT!

    And true duals for what a bolt on car? Not needed on a street car with minor bolt on mods.

    Most loose power and only gain noise.
    what you are saying doesn't make since to me. Pacesetters don't flow enough, but the true duals flow too much? Or were you talking about quality?

    true duals usually sounds better imo. listen to a bunch of clips on youtube and decide for yourself. besides headers, its really the sound you should be looking at with exhaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post



    Pacesetter LS1 F-Body headers are one of the best LT headers for the price.
    I guess no one that puts duals on a bolt-on car will ever mod beyond that.

    Looking to purchase full exhaust?? Motor back??
    Planning on future mods??
    Get Pacesetter F-body longtubes and true duals. The motor will respond GREAT to internal mods with that set-up.
    Or you could drop a bunch of $$ on an expensive header set-up and a weaker flowing y-pipe set-up.
    You get what you pay for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Psychosis View Post
    what you are saying doesn't make since to me. Pacesetters don't flow enough, but the true duals flow too much? Or were you talking about quality?

    true duals usually sounds better imo. listen to a bunch of clips on youtube and decide for yourself. besides headers, its really the sound you should be looking at with exhaust.
    Sure they flow enough. The fitment and the build quality are my issues. Sorry but putting headers on a F-body isn't as easy as putting some on many other cars. I can't see saving $200-300 and having issues over speed bumps and curbs because my cheapy headers hang low under my car.

    For a driver you mus remember the side effects of having duals with no tail pipes.
    Dust and dirt kicked up by turn downs
    Exhaust coming back in the car when cruising with the windows down and tops out.
    Most are pretty loud and tend to get nerve racking after a while on a regular street car.

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