Shorties!

**AntsSilverC5** · 09-05-2007, 10:15 PM

Hey guys i live right in the middle of the smog state capital of US, california. Though our weather is nice, our smog laws suck. I am most likely not going to bolt on long tubes as much i would love to, but Im contemplating if shorties are even worth the hassle or if i should just stick with my manifolds; especially considering I wanna swap my heads and cam as soon as I save up. What types of feedback can u give me on shorties considering my circumstances? (CA smog legal car) Thanks
-Ant

**BitViper** · 09-06-2007, 08:58 AM

The only way your gonna stay legal in CA is to go with shorties..period!

Others will chime in and tell you its not worth it...and for the cost of a new set..they're right..buy used save your bucks... you do see an increase in HP with shorties..the question is how much..I had a set on my Camaro..and the SOTP dyno told me it was diffrent..how diffrent..cant tell ya...

As for pairing with a new H/C set up...with shorties.Id go with a new cam set up only TR224 or somthing like that..and put therest into seats!

**AntsSilverC5** · 09-06-2007, 05:31 PM

thanks viper, im definetaly gonna look into used shorties as a possibility around the time I do the H/C install.

MahiDude · 09-08-2007, 07:41 AM

I thought you were referring to girls.

**widget** · 09-12-2007, 04:47 AM

B&B = an honest 10 rwhp

**thecorrectformula** · 09-12-2007, 04:55 AM

Can't you do midlength headers and still stay legal with a catted Y-pipe??

**Bugaboo** · 09-12-2007, 07:26 AM

The shortie that actually works is a b and b

**vader97** · 09-12-2007, 02:55 PM

I have Bassani shorties, and they seem to have helped in making some descent numbers with just simple bolt ons.

**Z06-Goose** · 09-12-2007, 06:19 PM

Since you're going heads and cam, the headers will be a moot oint. I think it there was something more relevant that will impact emissions, will be heads, and cam
It's a catch 22, you'll definitely need headers to take advantage of the head/cam set up, that's almost mandatory. As to which headers? If going shorties, you may want to look at the JBA headers, I think they make one of the best shorties around, as there are some other companies that do the same
Keeping the cam under 230 on the exhaust duration, and a good tune, will increase your chances of passing emissions...

**94 Formula** · 09-19-2007, 04:20 PM

The headers JBA offers are 1 3/4 with a 3" collector.

My uncle added set to his 99 vette and he picked up 14rwhp untuned.

PM me if you want a set..

Dustin

**widget** · 09-20-2007, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by 94 Formula

The headers JBA offers are 1 3/4 with a 3" collector.

My uncle added set to his 99 vette and he picked up 14rwhp untuned.

PM me if you want a set..

Dustin

was the increase verified on a dyno?