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    will 411s fit on a stock

    will 4;11s fit on a stock 98 rear end

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    yep...make sure you get the right ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird-WS6 View Post
    yep...make sure you get the right ones, 3 or 4ch


    which are the right ones

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    you have t/c?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird-WS6 View Post
    you have t/c?
    traction cont. yea

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    M6 or A4?

    all m6 cars (3.42) came with 3-series carrier and the lower ratio came with 2-series carrier, if im not mistaken
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird-WS6 View Post
    M6 or A4?

    all m6 cars (3.42) came with 3-series carrier and the lower ratio came with 2-series carrier, if im not mistaken
    so with 411s i gota change the carrier to 4 series rite or can i use lik clips or spacers to make it fit in 3 series carrier

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02midniteblu-ss View Post
    so with 411s i gota change the carrier to 4 series rite or can i use lik clips or spacers to make it fit in 3 series carrier
    i got mixed up...our cars dont come with 4series

    they sell a 4.10 gears for 10bolt

    if you have a 6spd you have 3.42 and a 3series...when you older the gears they will ask you

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02midniteblu-ss View Post
    so with 411s i gota change the carrier to 4 series rite or can i use lik clips or spacers to make it fit in 3 series carrier
    I felt I had sayed it here again and again,

    4.11s can fit on stock rear end, but here the thing you have to consider, if want to keep your abs,and asr you need 4 channel posi, if you dont your spend that much you can go with a 3-channel posi but you will lose you asr but keep abs!

    also are you doing the work yourself, if you did whitch I whould do cus them 10blot are a pain in the ass to work on,

    so the thing you have to consider is cost
    Gears($350-550)
    Posi($350-550), Install(if payed $550-1000), plus the spacers and clips and I whould put a a cover to make them blot stonger and cool looks

    VS.
    fully built 12blot with every thing you need I got my 12blot with 3,73 Tru-Track posi 33 spline axels, and cover for $2500 plus $350 install

    Is putting a 12blot more money.. yes if you add up the cost of rebuilding a 10blot you will see that the 12blot is just a few hunderd more, and you will have a badass rearend that you wont have to worry about Food For Thought!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird-WS6 View Post
    M6 or A4?

    all m6 cars (3.42) came with 3-series carrier and the lower ratio came with 2-series carrier, if im not mistaken
    sorry blackbird M6 and A4s came with 4-channel posi that how you retain your abs and asr,

    m6 comes with 3.42
    a4 comes with 2.73 unless you uped for the "Performace Axels" then some A4 came with 3.42 Just F.y.I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmaverickz28 View Post
    sorry blackbird M6 and A4s came with 4-channel posi that how you retain your abs and asr,

    m6 comes with 3.42
    a4 comes with 2.73 unless you uped for the "Performace Axels" then some A4 came with 3.42 Just F.y.I
    hahahaha its cool...i posted 4 before and then i EDIT it, i get all mixed up with all these fockin rearend and whatnot, i never understood why they made it like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmaverickz28 View Post
    I felt I had sayed it here again and again,

    4.11s can fit on stock rear end, but here the thing you have to consider, if want to keep your abs,and asr you need 4 channel posi, if you dont your spend that much you can go with a 3-channel posi but you will lose you asr but keep abs!

    also are you doing the work yourself, if you did whitch I whould do cus them 10blot are a pain in the ass to work on,

    so the thing you have to consider is cost
    Gears($350-550)
    Posi($350-550), Install(if payed $550-1000), plus the spacers and clips and I whould put a a cover to make them blot stonger and cool looks

    VS.
    fully built 12blot with every thing you need I got my 12blot with 3,73 Tru-Track posi 33 spline axels, and cover for $2500 plus $350 install

    Is putting a 12blot more money.. yes if you add up the cost of rebuilding a 10blot you will see that the 12blot is just a few hunderd more, and you will have a badass rearend that you wont have to worry about Food For Thought!!
    gears for $350-550??

    3ch 4.10 gears are about $190 but he has a 4ch

    and if your swaping out the rears, i would go with the 9in i just prefer it over the 12bolt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmaverickz28 View Post
    I felt I had sayed it here again and again,

    4.11s can fit on stock rear end, but here the thing you have to consider, if want to keep your abs,and asr you need 4 channel posi, if you dont your spend that much you can go with a 3-channel posi but you will lose you asr but keep abs!

    also are you doing the work yourself, if you did whitch I whould do cus them 10blot are a pain in the ass to work on,

    so the thing you have to consider is cost
    Gears($350-550)
    Posi($350-550), Install(if payed $550-1000), plus the spacers and clips and I whould put a a cover to make them blot stonger and cool looks

    VS.
    fully built 12blot with every thing you need I got my 12blot with 3,73 Tru-Track posi 33 spline axels, and cover for $2500 plus $350 install

    Is putting a 12blot more money.. yes if you add up the cost of rebuilding a 10blot you will see that the 12blot is just a few hunderd more, and you will have a badass rearend that you wont have to worry about Food For Thought!!

    I can assume by ''posi" you are talking about 4 channel vs. 3 channel ABS? And I'm pretty sure you'd have to reprogram/replace the ABS control unit if you went from a 4 channel to a 3 channel ABS system.

    You make some valid points about costs, but if the limited slip is still ok you don't neet to change that, so the cost of 4.10s is a lot more reasonable. People who make this change love it, I'd like to do it with my car.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rmaverickz28 View Post
    sorry blackbird M6 and A4s came with 4-channel posi that how you retain your abs and asr,

    m6 comes with 3.42
    a4 comes with 2.73 unless you uped for the "Performace Axels" then some A4 came with 3.42 Just F.y.I
    A4 cars only had factory gears of 2.73 or 3.23.
    If they still have the OE driveshaft, the 2.73 had a steel DS, the 3.23s had aluminum.

    Only M6s had 3.42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Fast View Post


    A4 cars only had factory gears of 2.73 or 3.23.
    If they still have the OE driveshaft, the 2.73 had a steel DS, the 3.23s had aluminum.

    Only M6s had 3.42.
    see thats what i thought as well

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    The actual gears have NOTHING to do the the ABS or TCS so ignore all that nonsense . All we need to know is whether you have an auto or manual transmission and/or what gear ratio you currently have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    The actual gears have NOTHING to do the the ABS or TCS so ignore all that nonsense . All we need to know is whether you have an auto or manual transmission and/or what gear ratio you currently have
    i asked that before and never got a comeback

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    The actual gears have NOTHING to do the the ABS or TCS so ignore all that nonsense . All we need to know is whether you have an auto or manual transmission and/or what gear ratio you currently have

    i have a 6spd and stock R.E. 3.42 but want 4.10 what ring and pinion fit my stock rear end with out changing the unit

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    Ok you already have a 3 series differential so regular 4.10s with fit just fine. But I think you may need to modify the center block or buy a paddle kit, because the 4.10 ring is thicker and covers up the hole where you slide the block in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    The actual gears have NOTHING to do the the ABS or TCS so ignore all that nonsense . All we need to know is whether you have an auto or manual transmission and/or what gear ratio you currently have
    That's right, I forgot the tone ring is on the carrier, not the gear itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Fast View Post
    That's right, I forgot the tone ring is on the carrier, not the gear itself.
    its has nothing to to with gears , yes , but if you want to retain your asr you need a 4 channel posi period.

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