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    Valve cover question

    I was installing my passenger valve cover on my 243 heads that use the 99 valve covers and I see this:



    Should I see the gasket like that? My bolts don't have the grommets on them if that matters. It makes me feel like they are not tight enough or I installed the gasket wrong some how.
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    The O-ring gasket sets into a groove machined into the rocker arm cover. Honestly, I haven't paid attention to what they look like when installed. You should pick up a set of grommets for the bolts. As I recall, the recommended torque spec on them isn't all that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    The O-ring gasket sets into a groove machined into the rocker arm cover. Honestly, I haven't paid attention to what they look like when installed. You should pick up a set of grommets for the bolts. As I recall, the recommended torque spec on them isn't all that much.
    Okay well I did put the gasket into the groove. The valve cover wiggles even though the bolts are tight, I will get some grommets and see if that helps any.

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    Hey Will,

    After I sent last nights pm I got to thinking and I realize what Jeff had said about the grommets.



    Side note - ordered the 7.325 push rods, hope to have them by Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    Hey Will,

    After I sent last nights pm I got to thinking and I realize what Jeff had said about the grommets.



    Side note - ordered the 7.325 push rods, hope to have them by Friday.
    I thought about that too, I just didn't think it would make that much of a difference. I taped off everything on my drivers side and passenger head to attempt to remove the broken lifter tray bolt. Let me know how those pushrods turn out.
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    I thought you already got the bolt out already. Be careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    I thought you already got the bolt out already. Be careful.
    No I've been lazy....college, work, kids, and family seem to take all my free time

    I covered the whole area minus the one spot I need access to with painters tape.

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    Interesting. I've never really paid attention to what it looks like either. Now I'm curious.

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    I hear yeah!!!

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    Do you think I blocked enough off





    That is where I need to drill. I ordered grommets and they should be here tomorrow morning. Btw I hate advance auto parts employees. They know nothing about cars and what shit is called.

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    ignore my pm about how far down the broken bolt is,


    is there any edge at all to use a flat tip to turn the bolt?


    Use any penetrating oil to help loose it?

    I wounder if some carefully applied heat might help it? Maybe warm the surrounding block carefully?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    ignore my pm about how far down the broken bolt is,


    is there any edge at all to use a flat tip to turn the bolt?


    Use any penetrating oil to help loose it?

    I wounder if some carefully applied heat might help it? Maybe warm the surrounding block carefully?
    It is completely flat. I wish it didn't matter if it came out or not lol. I will try penetrating oil and my torch but I feel those won't help much since the left hand drill bit is just drilling and not even turning the bolt a tiny bit.

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    Just drill it out. Pretty straight-forward process.

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    sad thing is that bolt isn't even that deep....



    was looking over my wife's Jeep last night and remember I need to do this for a oil pan bolt that broke like this too. I'm luckier in that I'll be pulling the block out

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Just drill it out. Pretty straight-forward process.
    What size bit and tap though?

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    Start small and work your way up is what I've done and seen done. I don't know if there's a rule of thumb or not. 1/2? the diameter?

    Are you using a left-hand bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Start small and work your way up is what I've done and seen done. I don't know if there's a rule of thumb or not. 1/2? the diameter?

    Are you using a left-hand bit?
    Yes I am and none of them worked they just made things worse, they jumped twice off center on different sides. I think I am going to have to drill the hole out with a bigger bit and use a different size bolt, or use JB Weld to fill the hole and redrill it the proper size. This seems like a lot of trouble for something that isn't that critical, what I mean is the head gasket with the heads are what really hold the tray down, in addition to the bolt.
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    Well my grommets came in today and I will be installing them tonight, hopefully those allow me to fully tighten down the valve cover.

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    It seems the grommets made it no longer loose I will take a picture of how much gasket shows later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    they jumped twice off center on different sides.
    Did you also use a punch?

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