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This is a discussion on Traction Control within the General Help forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; I want to know if there is any way to by pass the traction control on a 98Z. Any help ...

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    I want to know if there is any way to by pass the traction control on a 98Z. Any help would be appreciated.

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    That thread is good but doesn't completely answer the question.
    If you don't have a TCS Switch than you don't have Traction Control.
    All car's with TCS will have a single cable on the Throttle Body routed to the TCS Unit behind the Battery. If you have 2 cables on the Throttle Body then you Do Not have Traction Control.
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    How about checking RPO codes?

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    He asked how to BYPASS it.. I would imagine that would mean he knows he has it... SLP makes a module to reverse it so its off automatically instead of on.. I'm planning on getting it one of these days.. REALLY annoying hitting that button everytime I get in the car....
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    From the thread I posted above:
    "Are you sure your car doesn't have traction control? Some of these cars were built without the switch-my car was.I bought my 02 new and the window sticker said traction control-but there was no switch installed in the dash-just a block off plate.I already had a service manual from my 98 that I traded in so I knew what to look for mechanically to verify the system was there.Look underneath at the back axle-if there is a wire going to both back wheels instead of just going into the middle of the rear axle-you have traction control and all you need is the switch to turn it on and off.If you have traction control but no switch-it will be on all the time-you can't turn it off and it comes on automatically when you start the car.Anyway they ordered a switch and installed it-service guy said it happened from time to time,I said no harm no foul. The ABS module looks different also-but the easiest way to tell is looking at the back axle."

    I thought that answered the question "I want to know if there is any way to by pass the traction control on a 98Z.". I read the answer to be yes, a switch can be installed.

    The SLP traction control logic module is here, a little over half way through the page: http://tbyrne.com/ls1/ls1transgears.html . I agree it's probably the better solution, I can see where having to hit a button every time could get annoying.

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    I had the SLP reversal...it's a very good buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven strickland View Post
    I want to know if there is any way to by pass the traction control on a 98Z. Any help would be appreciated.

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    On the passenger side fender well, the electric motor that the thottle cables go to, unplug it !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jag42420 View Post
    From the thread I posted above:
    "Are you sure your car doesn't have traction control? Some of these cars were built without the switch-my car was.I bought my 02 new and the window sticker said traction control-but there was no switch installed in the dash-just a block off plate.I already had a service manual from my 98 that I traded in so I knew what to look for mechanically to verify the system was there.Look underneath at the back axle-if there is a wire going to both back wheels instead of just going into the middle of the rear axle-you have traction control and all you need is the switch to turn it on and off.If you have traction control but no switch-it will be on all the time-you can't turn it off and it comes on automatically when you start the car.Anyway they ordered a switch and installed it-service guy said it happened from time to time,I said no harm no foul. The ABS module looks different also-but the easiest way to tell is looking at the back axle."

    I thought that answered the question "I want to know if there is any way to by pass the traction control on a 98Z.". I read the answer to be yes, a switch can be installed.

    The SLP traction control logic module is here, a little over half way through the page: http://tbyrne.com/ls1/ls1transgears.html . I agree it's probably the better solution, I can see where having to hit a button every time could get annoying.
    I agree with most of this, although, all 98-02 Camaros and Firebirds have 4 channel ABS, which means a speed sensor on each end of the axle. 93-97 Camaros and Firebirds have 3 Channel ABS, which means 1 sensor for the whole rear. Having one or two wires running to the rear doesn't tell you wether you have ABS or not which was available in 3 channel and 4 channel systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bills98ta View Post
    On the passenger side fender well, the electric motor that the thottle cables go to, unplug it !!!
    Will that affect the ABS?

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    No, The ABS will work, but the gas pedal won't kick up any more, until you plug it back in...

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    It really sucks at the track, when you restart the car, & forget to shut it off... Won't spin in the water box !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9t8z28 View Post
    I agree with most of this, although, all 98-02 Camaros and Firebirds have 4 channel ABS, which means a speed sensor on each end of the axle. 93-97 Camaros and Firebirds have 3 Channel ABS, which means 1 sensor for the whole rear. Having one or two wires running to the rear doesn't tell you wether you have ABS or not which was available in 3 channel and 4 channel systems.
    98's also had 3 channel ABS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0rion View Post
    98's also had 3 channel ABS.
    Not mine, and 98 is when they switched over to 4 channel, which is why I have 2 speed sonsors on the rear axle.

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    My 98 SS has 4 channel also.
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    I would assume all traction control cars would have 4 channel rears but my 98 without traction control is a 3 channel.

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    All I did to bypass my TCS is unplug the fuse under the hood (not the fuse inside the car, since that is linked to other accessories)....havent had any problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0rion View Post
    I would assume all traction control cars would have 4 channel rears but my 98 without traction control is a 3 channel.
    Hmm, there must have been very few leftover rears from 97. My buds 98 has no traction control and he has a 4 channel rear.

    You must not have 4 channel ABS

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    I'm gonna look and see if I can find some build numbers. I was under the impression a large number of 98's had the 3 channel rears but I've never seen any build numbers, just people on the boards buying and selling the rears out of their cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bills98ta View Post
    On the passenger side fender well, the electric motor that the thottle cables go to, unplug it !!!


    I am new on the site and have a 99 T/A and I have pulled the fuse under the hood before and my stupid TCS light shines in my face. If I unplug the motor will the light still come on? Thanks!

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