subframe connecter crash testing

**02z28ls1** · 09-23-2005, 06:02 PM

Something I've been thinking about for a while and haven't seen any info on-it may not exist.Cars are designed with crumple zones for occupant safety in an accident.What happens in a crash with the subframe connected?My gut instinct says you would be safer but I'm wondering if any car design engineers have done testing on this.Maybe it ruins the crumple zones-anyone with any actual facts or witnessed any wrecked cars can answer-or hell anybody can chime in for that matter.

**mcamp001** · 09-24-2005, 04:57 PM

I'm not sure about any official testing, but I have seen F-bodies ripped in half without them. A couple of accidents here in the Philly area come to mind. They have to help if the impact is severe.

**bww3588** · 09-25-2005, 03:12 PM

it would be an equivlient to a car with a full frame.

**02z28ls1** · 09-25-2005, 03:52 PM

In theory that would be true-but nowaday they would design the car for crumple zones with the full frame.The F-body wasn't crash tested w/s.f.c.-does it ruin the crumple zones or enhance-that is the question I'm asking.When you say the car was almost ripped in half was that side impact?I've seen that kind of collision damage myself-looks bad.I personally witnessed a Camaro barrell roll 3-4 times on the side of the road and wind up upside down.The T-top did not collapse in on them.What about head-on or rear end stuff-anybody see that?