Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 51

Pick on brand of PREMIUM 91 GAS FOR LIFE???

This is a discussion on Pick on brand of PREMIUM 91 GAS FOR LIFE??? within the General Help forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; I just bought a 98 ss, and want to know what brand of 91 octane is better for your ls1 ...

  1. #1
    Junior Member khickenwang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Kali(RICH-CITY)
    Posts
    57

    JET BLACK
    99 SS

    Pick on brand of PREMIUM 91 GAS FOR LIFE???

    I just bought a 98 ss, and want to know what brand of 91 octane is better for your ls1 ss. Chevron, shell, arco, or 76 for best performance? If you could pick one for for life, what would it be out of the four and why?

  2. #2
    Senior Member 00z28bubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    las vegas, nv
    Age
    29
    Posts
    1,390

    white
    2000 Z28

    Quote Originally Posted by khickenwang View Post
    I just bought a 98 ss, and want to know what brand of 91 octane is better for your ls1 ss. Chevron, shell, arco, or 76 for best performance? If you could pick one for for life, what would it be out of the four and why?
    never had a bad batch with shell, ran into 2 bad batches with chevron and ive only been there 2 times. arco is 10 minutes away and 76 is 20 minutes away. closest is shell fortunately.

  3. #3
    James Bond Spikito's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Texas
    Age
    30
    Posts
    4,546

    2001 3.8 Black - sold
    2000 SS Black M6

    ive been using valero the last 2 years....when i first moved here, it was convenient, now i just like them....

    to be honest, i can tell the difference in regular, and premium, but ive never noticed a difference between brands

  4. #4
    Your dealership guy konigandy6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Romeo, MI
    Posts
    6,557

    Velocity Yellow
    2008 Corvette Z06

    Quote Originally Posted by Spikito View Post
    ive been using valero the last 2 years....when i first moved here, it was convenient, now i just like them....

    to be honest, i can tell the difference in regular, and premium, but ive never noticed a difference between brands
    Isn't that the Chavez oil?

    Sunoco 94 and have had 0 problems.

  5. #5
    Exalted Cyclops 67CamaroRSSS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    5,824

    2002 Z28 A4 NBM
    Sadly now demodded :(

    I live in PHX and have been using QT (Quick Trip). I don't know who refines their gas but I've never had a problem.

    When I lived in LA I went with Union 76 exclusively.

    On the road I try to stick to major brands. I stay away from Arco. Green gas ain't my thing...

  6. #6
    James Bond Spikito's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Texas
    Age
    30
    Posts
    4,546

    2001 3.8 Black - sold
    2000 SS Black M6

    Quote Originally Posted by konigandy6 View Post
    Isn't that the Chavez oil?

    Sunoco 94 and have had 0 problems.
    yeah it is, lol

    the only brands we have around here are shell, chevron, and valero...shells are pretty rare, chevron is jsut too damn expensive, valeros are everywhere and cheaper.

  7. #7
    Member c5z28's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Bay Area
    Posts
    8,120

    On your ass flashing
    my highbeams

    Never had a bad batch, usually use shell or arco no problems. Some friends say they use chevron exclusively but someone stated above they got bad gas. This looks like it could turn into a royal purple thread.

  8. #8
    Member blk99ws6ta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Palestine,Il
    Posts
    164

    Black
    1999 WS6 Ram Air Trans-Am

    I use marathon premium (93). No problem at all.

  9. #9
    BANGIN GEARS>STAB N STEER BLK2KSS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Jacksonville FL
    Age
    34
    Posts
    855

    TRIPLE BLACK
    2000 CAMARO SS M6 #2100

    chevron 93 here.... its about 300 yards from my house
    HONDAS ARE LIKE TAMPONS... EVERY PUSSY HAS ONE!
    **PHK**

  10. #10
    Member TA98's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    863

    Black
    1998 Trans Am

    BP 93 or if im in town Sunoco 93. BP is closet so its usually what i use, its either that or 7 Eleven, which i will NOT use. Ive never had an issue with either of these fuels.

  11. #11
    Member SuperSport346's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    West Michigan
    Posts
    187

    Black
    2002 Camaro SS

    I've never had a problem with any of the gas I've run. I usually use a local chain called Wesco. I've heard some people have had problems with their gas, but they have clean stations and they're everywhere here. Sometimes I'll go to a Shell.

  12. #12
    Grand Imperial Wizard Sarge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Texas Department of Corrections
    Posts
    18,129
    Retired Outlaw Sum Bitch

    You guys are really asking which gas companies meet the Top Tier requirements.....
    http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html

    Requirements to meet Top Tier status are as follows.....so any listed companies are the best you can put in your baby....

    Deposit Control Standards
    The standards developed by the four automobile manufacturers (BMW, General Motors, Honda, and Toyota) for TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline are described below. This technical document describes the deposit control performance of unleaded gasoline at the retail level that minimizes deposits on fuel injectors, intake valves, and combustion chambers. These standards comprise the requirements for TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.
    Standards
    1.1 Retail Gasoline Performance Standards. The deposit control performance of unleaded gasoline conforming to section 1 of this document shall be met at the retail level in all grades of gasoline sold by a fuel company in all marketing areas of a selected nation. In addition, conformance to the standards shall mean gasoline sold in the selected nation shall not contain metallic additives, including methylcyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl (MMT).
    1.2 Deposit Control Additive Requirements. The deposit control additive used to meet the performance Standards described in 1.3 shall meet the substantially similar definition under Section 211(f) of the Clean Air Act. Also, the additive shall be certified to have met the minimum deposit control requirements established by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in 40 CFR Part 80. Lastly, the additive shall be registered with the EPA in accordance with 40 CFR Part 79.
    1.3 Deposit Control Initial Performance Standards. Initial deposit control performance shall be demonstrated using the tests shown below.
    1.3.1 Intake Valve Keep Clean Initial Performance Standard.
    1.3.1.1 Test Method. Intake valve deposit (IVD) keep clean performance shall be demonstrated using ASTM D 6201, Standard Test Method for Dynamometer Evaluation of Unleaded Spark-lgnition Engine Fuel for Intake Valve Deposit Formation. Tests demonstrating base fuel minimum deposit level (1.3.1.2) and additive performance (1.3.1.3) shall be conducted using the same engine block and cylinder head. All results shall be derived from operationally valid tests in accordance with the test validation criteria of ASTM D 6201. IVD results shall be reported for individual valves and as an average of all valves.
    1.3.1.2 Base Fuel. The base fuel shall conform to ASTM D 4814 and shall contain commercial fuel grade ethanol conforming to ASTM D 4806. All gasoline blend stocks used to formulate the base fuel shall be representative of normal U.S. refinery operations and shall be derived from conversion units downstream of distillation. Butanes and pentanes are allowed for vapor pressure adjustment. The use of chemical streams is prohibited. The base fuel shall have the following specific properties after the addition of ethanol:

    1. Contain enough denatured ethanol such that the actual ethanol content is no less than 8.0 and no more than 10.0 volume percent.
    2. Contain no less than 8 volume percent olefins. At least 75% of the olefins shall be derived from FCC gasoline as defined by CARB (advisory letter, April 19, 2001).
    3. Contain no less than 28 volume percent aromatics.
    4. Contain no less than 48 mg/kg sulfur. At least 60% of the sulfur shall be derived from FCC blend stock.
    5. Produce a 90% evaporation distillation temperature no less than 290�F.
    6. Produce IVD no less than 500 mg averaged over all intake valves.

    1.3.1.3 Demonstration of Performance. The base fuel from 1.3.1.2 shall contain enough deposit control additive such the IVD is no more than 50 mg averaged over all intake valves. Results for individual valves and an average shall be reported. The unwashed gum level of the fuel containing deposit control additive shall be determined according to ASTM D 381 and reported.
    1.3.2 Combustion Chamber Deposit Initial Performance Standard.
    1.3.2.1 Test Method. Combustion chamber deposits (CCD) shall be collected and weighed along with IVD using ASTM D 6201, Standard Test Method for Dynamometer Evaluation of Unleaded Spark-Ignition Engine Fuel for Intake Valve Deposit Formation. ASTM D 6201 does not contain a procedure for collecting and measuring CCD. Adapting a scrape and weigh procedure developed by CARB is recommended (see referenced test method dated March 12, 1999). Results for individual cylinders and an average shall be reported.
    1.3.2.2 Base Fuel. Combustion chamber deposits shall be measured for the base fuel from 1.3.1.2.
    --------------------------------
    Continued on next post........................
    Last edited by Sarge; 02-25-2010 at 04:50 AM.

  13. #13
    Grand Imperial Wizard Sarge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Texas Department of Corrections
    Posts
    18,129
    Retired Outlaw Sum Bitch

    1.3.2.3 Demonstration of Performance. The base fuel from 1.3.1.2 treated with additive at the concentration meeting the standard found in 1.3.1.3 shall not result in more than 140% of the average CCD weight for the base fuel without additive.
    1.3.3 Fuel Injector Fouling Initial Performance Standard.
    1.3.3.1 Test Method. Fuel injector fouling shall be measured using the TOP TIER fuel injector fouling vehicle test available from GM. GM will run the test on a first-come-first-served basis and shall make the method available to those who wish to run the test on their own.
    1.3.3.2 Base Fuel. Two options for base fuel are available:
    1.3.3.2.1 Option 1. A full boiling range hydrocarbon gasoline or gasoline blending component, without oxygenates and without deposit control additives, that results in at least five inoperative injectors when tested by the method in 1.3.3.1.
    1.3.3.2.2 Option 2. Federal emissions test gasoline specified in DFR 86.113-04, into which 4-methylbenzenethiol (WARNING: Flammable solid; irritant) has been blended at a concentration of 56 mg/L. The blended fuel must result in at least four inoperative injectors when tested by the method in 1.3.3.1. the Federal emissions gasoline, without deposit control additives, available from Haltermann Products (1201 South Sheldon Road, Channelview, TX 77530; tel.: 800-969-2542) has been found to be satisfactory.
    1.3.3.3 Demonstration of Performance. A demonstration of injector fouling shall be done first. At least five out of six injectors (with Option 1) or at least four out of six injectors (with Option 2) shall be inoperative for the test to be valid. A demonstration of additive performance shall be done after the fouling tendency demonstration; no other test shall be conducted on the vehicle in the interim. A demonstration of additive performance shall be conducted using the same vehicle (including the fuel drain and flush procedures and installing new injectors) with the same batch of base fuel, but now containing the same amount of deposit control additive as in 1.3.1.3. A pass is defined as no more than one inoperative injector.
    1.3.4 Determination of Deposit Control Additive Performance Concentration.
    1.3.4.1 Methodology. The concentration of deposit control additive needed to meet the standards in 1.3.1.3 and 1.3.3.3 should be equivalent. However, if the concentration of deposit control additive in 1.3.3.3 is grater than in 1.3.1.3m the higher value shall be regarded as meeting both standards. Also, if the difference between the two concentrations is grater than 15%, 1.3.2.3 shall be repeated using the higher concentration.
    1.3.5 Intake Valve Sticking Initial Performance Standard.
    1.3.5.1 Test Method. Intake valve sticking tendency shall be determined using either the 1.9 L Volkswagen engine (Wasserboxer according to CEC F-16-T-96) or the 5.0 L 1990-95 General Motors V-8 engine (SWRI IVS test). Two options are available for demonstrating intake valve sticking tendency.
    1.3.5.2 Option 1. The valve-sticking tendency of the test fuel by itself will not have to be demonstrated prior to testing the candidate additive. The following shall be required of all tests:

    1. Test fuel shall be either the same as in 1.3.1.2 or CEC valve sticking reference fuel.
    2. Concentration of deposit control additive in the test fuel shall be at least twice the amount determined in 1.3.4.1.
    3. Test temperature shall be -20�C.
    4. Three 16-hr cold soak cycles, each followed by a compression pressure check, shall constitute a complete test.

    1.3.5.2.1 Demonstration of Performance. A pass shall result in no stuck valves during any of the three cold starts. A stuck valve is defined as one in which the cylinder pressure is less than 80% of the normal average cylinder compression pressure.
    1.3.5.3 Option 2. The valve-sticking tendency of the test fuel together with an additive known to cause valve sticking shall be demonstrated prior to testing the candidate additive. The following shall be required of all tests:

    1. Test fuel shall be either the same as in 1.3.1.2 or CEC valve sticking test reference fuel.
    2. An additive known to cause valve sticking shall be selected, and, when blended into test fuel, shall demonstrate valve sticking tendency as follows: (a) for the Volkswagen engine, at least two valves shall be stuck; (b) for the GM engine, at least three valves shall be stuck.
    3. Test demonstrating performance of the candidate additive shall be conducted at a concentration that is at least three times the amount determined in 1.3.4.1.
    4. Test temperature shall be -20�C.
    5. One 16-hr cold soak cycle followed by a compression pressure check shall constitute a complete test.

    1.3.5.3.1 Demonstration of Performance. A pass shall result in no stuck valves during the cold start. A stuck valve is defined as one in which cylinder compression is less than 80% of the normal average cylinder compression pressure.

  14. #14
    James Bond Spikito's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Texas
    Age
    30
    Posts
    4,546

    2001 3.8 Black - sold
    2000 SS Black M6

    cliffs notes?

  15. #15
    Retired NOT tired SteveC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Poway, Ca
    Posts
    1,126

    SOM
    2001 Z28 (Sara)

    I would not use Arco gasoline, the "EC" moniker denotes "Ethenol 2%", and I have found that my gas milage drops when using this gasoline.

    I generally use Exxon 91 premium fuel.

    SteveC

  16. #16
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Kentucky
    Age
    65
    Posts
    91

    S O M
    2002 Camaro SS

    Last edited by KP1; 02-25-2010 at 11:44 AM.

  17. #17
    Member blackbird0230's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    828

    Black
    2002 Trans am WS6 pkg

    shell ftw here in Colorado, I notice a difference when I switched

  18. #18
    King 0f n00bz shady milkman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Shepherd, Michigan
    Age
    29
    Posts
    11,775

    blacker than wesleysnipes
    98' trans am

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    You guys are really asking which gas companies meet the Top Tier requirements.....
    http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html
    thanks sarge..you saved me a lot of typing ...bp is not on the list for the united states...shell however is and i try to go out of my way on a trip to get shell.

  19. #19
    Senior Member 2001camaroSS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Greenwood, IN
    Posts
    3,508

    Light Pewter Metallic
    2001 Camaro SS

    is there a big difference between 89 and 92-3 performance wise
    2012 Regal GS

    2004 Cadillac CTS-V (Sold)
    2001 Camaro SS (Sold)
    1999 Camaro Z28 (Sold)

  20. #20
    King 0f n00bz shady milkman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Shepherd, Michigan
    Age
    29
    Posts
    11,775

    blacker than wesleysnipes
    98' trans am

    Quote Originally Posted by 2001camaroSS View Post
    is there a big difference between 89 and 92-3 performance wise
    yes. there is . lower octane rating+ high compression = more detonation

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Who Runs premium
    By ss~zoso~ss in forum Almost Anything Goes
    Replies: 337
    Last Post: 06-03-2009, 03:50 PM
  2. FS: XBOX 360 Premium with HD DVD in SC
    By ChevellRCR in forum General Classifieds
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-28-2007, 07:24 AM
  3. Premium or mid-grade?
    By ShelbySS in forum GTO
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 02-14-2007, 07:33 PM
  4. PS3 Playstation 3 Premium
    By jsnone1 in forum General Classifieds
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-21-2006, 04:23 PM
  5. Corsa Premium FS
    By 02 WS6 TA in forum Parts For Sale / Trade
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-27-2005, 03:10 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •