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This is a discussion on Oil Filters within the General Help forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Well we have access to a lab. And smart fella's. So I got em lined up to test flow and ...

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    Oil Filters

    Well we have access to a lab. And smart fella's. So I got em lined up to test flow and filtration on 6 filters. Will post data/pics and all that....but what six filters we gonna test. They told me to keep it apples to apples...so all filters must cross reference. I suggest we use all filters that cross reference with PH1 Fram....I think that is the most popular filter in the world if I'm not mistaken. No poll...what I would ask is give me your top 6 brands of filters you would like tested and reported on. I see
    Purolator
    KN
    Mobil1
    AC Delco
    WIX
    Baldwin
    Fram
    NAPA Gold
    STP

    there are others....give me your top 6 ...I'll add all the votes up...buy em and deliver them to the SW Research Labs and get er done. Should be intresting.....

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    test the cheapo walmart filter

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    Here's my list in order of what I prefer to use first, second, and so on.

    AC Delco
    Fram
    Wix
    Mobile1
    STP
    KN(because of the price)

    NOTE: I've actually had a couple of problems with Mobile1. I won't trust them again.

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    98 Formula
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    delco
    fram
    wix
    purolater
    KN
    and I too would like to see a store brand used such as wally world or some other popular store brand.

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    The WallyWorld ST Filter always ranks very high ...suprisingly good little filter...I agree...we will include the ST Filter and see how she does....

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    Purolator Pure1 Fram (Tough Guard or any of their 'premium' filters) STP AC Delco Wal-mart (just out of curiousity) K&N (is it worth the money?) Hey Sarge! How come the damn text entry box strips out my carriage returns?
    Last edited by Fastcar; 02-25-2007 at 05:46 AM. Reason: text editor thought it could read my mind

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    There is one monsterous study on this but I tend to use the Purolator PureOne or the Bosch top of the line one.

    Kind of intensive reading and this is only one link of many:

    http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

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    I've heard WIX makes one of the top filters out there. I've never used them because no one here carries them that've I've seen so far.

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    TY,i've used the walmart oil filter and noticed that my oil pressure runs a little lower than when i use the purolator filter.I have to wonder why?Does the walmart filter flow less and filter better or the purolator flow more and filter less?i've been wondering about this ever since buddy holly died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Crowe View Post
    There is one monsterous study on this but I tend to use the Purolator PureOne or the Bosch top of the line one.

    Kind of intensive reading and this is only one link of many:

    http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
    Hey Steve...yeah I read that awhile back...while very informative....it is old....these filters change quite often....That is why I feel the "need" to fund a new one...to get the latest data.....

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    Agreed. The fresher the data, the better. Thanks for your initiative Sarge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue02Z View Post
    amsoil
    ac delco
    k&n
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    agree 100%

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    Well here is the folks doing the work.....
    http://www.swri.org/4org/d03/vehsys/filfine/home.htm
    Lets do this....
    SuperTech ( WalMart)
    KN
    Bosch ( WIX/NAPA should be really really close to this one so we kill three birds with one stone)
    AC Delco
    Amsoil
    Fram

    What I am after is how much better do the high dollar (KN) filter and flow compared to the low end and middle of the pack. I dont want to run three high end filters and no low end and I think we should have one or two high end and one low end then four middle of the pack filters. But I'm open to suggestions....I am after a highend/low end/regular guy filter....and I suspect the KN is going to flow and filter in the middle of the pack...they have consistently shown they are no better than Purolator in past test....but cost three times more....Amsoil consistently beats the shit out of everybody...so we will see....and SuperTech consistently reflects a good flow and filtration for $2 bucks.....am I making any sense? And lastly I throw Fram in there as it is the number one seller in the country.

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    nice,i'm interested in how that cheapo walmart filter does.i read on bitog about some guy a while back really cutting that new design type filter down.i forget whats its called but it has a plastic cage inside.oil filters have been going up hill ever since buddy holly died.

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    Hell Bob himself did a study with no oil filter at all and the UOA came back perfect.....VW's for years had no oil filter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoMommasTA View Post
    TY,i've used the walmart oil filter and noticed that my oil pressure runs a little lower than when i use the purolator filter.I have to wonder why?Does the walmart filter flow less and filter better or the purolator flow more and filter less?i've been wondering about this ever since buddy holly died.
    Any sort of fluid pressure drop/pressure increase is directly related to flow/restriction/filtration. If the pressure is low, the fluid flows more freely than when the pressure is high. If you are getting lower pressure with the Wal-mart filter it could be due to 1) less filtration due to less filter material (media) in the filter or 2) the filter material has larger pores than the Purolator media (more flow but more crap and larger size particles get through). It's the exact opposite of what you've been wondering about: Wal-mart probably flows more and filters less than Purolator. A totally plugged filter (if it had no pressure relief valve) would show the highest oil pressure, and would probably burst. Good thing the music still lives, though..... wonder no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastcar View Post
    Any sort of fluid pressure drop/pressure increase is directly related to flow/restriction/filtration. If the pressure is low, the fluid flows more freely than when the pressure is high. If you are getting lower pressure with the Wal-mart filter it could be due to 1) less filtration due to less filter material (media) in the filter or 2) the filter material has larger pores than the Purolator media (more flow but more crap and larger size particles get through). It's the exact opposite of what you've been wondering about: Wal-mart probably flows more and filters less than Purolator. A totally plugged filter (if it had no pressure relief valve) would show the highest oil pressure, and would probably burst. Good thing the music still lives, though..... wonder no more.
    me thinks you are backwards,the oil pressure is read after the oil filter.
    Last edited by Rivi; 02-27-2007 at 07:16 AM.

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