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    Hello
    Just bought a 1998 Camaro Z/28 bone stock
    104k can be seen here
    http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...=&aff=national
    very clean i mean the car looks just as nice as my 03 Seville STS with 45k on it
    anyways i bought it for 5k expecting to do some work and am looking to start digging in
    i already swapped all the fluids and have come here to seek advice
    when i bought the car i noticed it and its continued to do it
    whenever you start the car at idle its almost completely unnoticeable while at idle
    when you give it gas though there is a ticking that comes from what sounds like the passenger side valve cover
    ive listened to a bunch of youtube vids as well as made numerous searches here and on google
    from what i gather this is either a noisy lifter or a bent pushrod?
    im not familiar with pushrods, ive actually always owned northstars and am very good with their DOHC setup but the whole Chevy LS1 is new to me.
    im hoping to post up a vid asap but any input in the meantime would be MUCH appreciated.
    thank you all!

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    well if the tickin goes away when warm you are witnessing the infamous ls1 tick. if it DOESNT go away and it gets faster with r's and it sounds like its coming from valve cover then it's most likely a lifter.
    -it could be a loose rocker, but with that automatic i doubt it's a bent pushrod. usually bent push rod's only happen in 6 speed cars that driver blows a shift in. . .take a screwdriver and stick it down onto the valve cover and listen to the handle (with car warm). do it in several places: if you can really hear "tappin" in one spot substantially more than other it's time to take cover off. rockers don't usually get loose but when they do they make more of a "tickin" sound, collapsed lifters make a "tappin". hope this helps.
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    Mine does it till its above 100 degrees usually, not loud at idle, but around 1500 rpm is damn loud, piston slap is the famous tick..

    It goes away after a minute tho doesnt it???

    If not you have issues. Keep us updated and provide a video if you can

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    same thing they are saying... goes away your fine.... if it does go away, you have a problem..

    how loud is it?

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    it never fully goes away
    its really loud when 1st started
    it quiets down after being run for awhile but its still there
    at idle you cant hear it
    with the hood closed its not so bad
    but when you get out on the highway and jump on it its there
    you guys recommend then i discontinue driving it until i fix it?

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    howdy bud... cheswick pa... if that is close to telford i could take a look at it for ya...

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    humm
    no idea where that is not that im surprised though im not good with surrounding areas lol
    im by Pittsburgh PA if that helps?

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    i really think you're hearin piston slap. collapsed lifters may get a little quieter when warm but youll have a loss of power. it can only be so many things: ls1 slap, lifters, rockers, bent pushrod, detonation, or a wrist pin slappin around. there are more things but you wouldnt hear them up top of motor. and i tried listing those things in order of "likeliness".
    i tell ya this: i'm goin campin in green ridge western maryland off I-68 by cumberland in a couple weeks, right before thanksgiving. if you don't get it square by then and you're willing to take the hike ill be glad to spend some time lookin at it. we can even pull a valve cover if ya want.
    as far as drivin it i'd say if it doesnt get louder and you cant tell a loss in power, go for it, cuz i think you're hearin normal noises.

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    like i said im from the DOHC field
    these are my Eldorado and Seville
    they are pretty quick and i lovem
    but i wanted a toy to go wild with
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Cadillacetc1997?ob=1
    LS1 is new territory for me, i work as a mech part time and have done HGs on 2.0L Cavis and 3100/3800 intakes all the time
    but the second i think of hg removal i think of the nightmare associated with doing them on a sidewinder N*
    i have an uncle who works as the parts manager at a chevy dealer
    im thinking of calling him to see if i can get them to look at it
    stock this thing is about as fast as my STS and slightly slower than my ETC which is been highly modded (again seat of paints dyno) which i would assume is about how the car should perform so i assume theres no power loss.
    when i jump on it it kicks down a gear and launches, is i really mash it, it kicks down again and takes off like a bat outta hell.
    but the ticking noise to me seems to me like it shouldnt be a normal thing, ive experianced piston slap with the N* as they are notorious for carbon build up but this sounds different...

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    that may work

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    seems like usual valve train noise with an ls1 to me..

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    Piston slap on these is caused by the improper building techniques at GM and they come from the factory like this. If its not hurting HP I would say its piston slap.


    Use 10w30 and sythetic oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshieDoom View Post
    Piston slap on these is caused by the improper building techniques at GM and they come from the factory like this. If its not hurting HP I would say its piston slap.


    Use 10w30 and sythetic oil?
    drop to a liter oil.. not a heavy one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons12 View Post
    drop to a liter oil.. not a heavy one..
    That was a question not a statement btw

    for the original poster, Amsoil is a great oil that will reduce/eliminate piston slap. but Pennzoil Platinum is the best off the shelf brand you can buy, depending on the temperature of where you live.

    PP 10w30 reduced my slight piston slap at hot idle to nothing after a few changes.. 154k DD. 10 degrees to 110, all weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshieDoom View Post
    That was a question not a statement btw

    for the original poster, Amsoil is a great oil that will reduce/eliminate piston slap. but Pennzoil Platinum is the best off the shelf brand you can buy, depending on the temperature of where you live.

    PP 10w30 reduced my slight piston slap at hot idle to nothing after a few changes.. 154k DD. 10 degrees to 110, all weather.
    i know it was a statement, so was mine! haha

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