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    McLeod SFI Approved Modular Bellhousing, Help

    I put this here instead of the transmission section because I think it would have a greater chance of replies.

    I just bought this (pic below) McLeod SFI Approved Modular Bellhousing for my 98 T/A. (Short story I cracked the stock bell housing and needs replaced.)




    I just got told from the tech guys where I bought it from that the 98's have some clearance problems with this bell housing with the oil pan and fly wheel with the plate. They also told me that if I scratch it up too much they can't take it back.

    Looking for anyone that has installed this bell housing. Need some guidance on how to install.

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    Well I finally got a hold of McLeod tech support. They stated that the LS1 was not designed for a flat plate and that some LS1's oil pans flanges tend to go past the block. Tech guy recommend that if I had that situation to shave it down with a grinder to make it flush. Comments/opinions?

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    Hahahahahaha! This thing is a F-in joke! Many, many, many issues!!!!!!
    SEND IT BACK NOW!!!!!! It is a universal bellhousing and is not designed specifically for the LS1!!!

    SEND IT BACK AND GET THE QUICK TIME!!

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    It would help if you specify what those issues are.

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    FIRST ISSUE

    Take a look at the back of my engine. Notice the oil pan. It actually protrudes from the surface of the block. 98-02 are the same. McLeod expects you to grind down the back of the oil pan. F@$# THAT! The oil pan is a major support of the engine. Why grind it!


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    Stay tuned, more to come in a few minutes.

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    SECOND ISSUE

    Take a look at the McLeod bellhousing (below) and then look at stock bellhousing vs the Quick Time. Notice how there are no cutouts on the surface where the tranny meets the bellhousing for the SLAVE CYLINDER on the McLeod. On the stock unit and the Quick Time the recessed areas are already there. Major cutting would have to be done to the McLeod! F-that!




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    THIRD ISSUE

    the depth of the McLeod bellhousing is too deep. It would require a special Slave Cylinder or you would have to shim it at least an INCH away from the trans (where it bolts up to)! WTF would want to do that! My throwout bearing would not have even came into contact with it.

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    FOURTH ISSUE

    Notice how the McLeod has two humps on it for what? HMM, WTF COULD THAT BE FOR? Hmm, oh, thats right, it fits early Pontiac motors to that have the starter on the driverside! It also has a cutout for the clutch fork and our cars dont have one!



    Oh look, what are all of these holes for? Hmm, nothing! They are useless!
    Oh, and just so you know, the block saver is not sitting flush on the block.


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    Where and how much did you get yours?

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    Here is the QUICK TIME. It is about $100 more (if I remember correctly) and every bit worth it!!!

    Take a look at the quality of this thing. It is hydro formed and fits like a glove. I had to clearance one thing and that was to clear my QTP long tubes. Who would it expect to clear every manufactured LTH ? I don't and knowone should. It was a minor adjustment.

    Also, no shimming is required to mount the Slave Cylinder (but your appl. may vary)

    Oh, and by the way, it fits 12" Centerforce Clutches.

    Take a look at the quality product!



    ALSO, NOTICE THE RECESSED AREA FOR THE SLAVE CYLINDER. NO MODIFICATIONS NECESSARY!!



    (QTP and QT are not the same company just incase you are wondering)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    Where and how much did you get yours?
    I got mine from Summit Racing. I don't remember how much it was but from all of the research I did, I found that they had the best price.

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    Please trust me, save yourself alot of work and frustration and send that POS back. Sorry to say it, but they are probably going to have you pay to send it back, but it is still worth it to get the Quick Time.

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    If you want more info in detail, PM me and I'll give you my phone # and I'll go into much more detail and the details I had with dealing with them personally.

    the only thing I would recommend McLeod for is their clutch master cylinder (which I have) and it works flawlessly, their other products I have no experience with.
    Last edited by 9t8z28; 07-09-2010 at 02:33 PM.

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    I know there's more then one person here, looking for more then just one opinion. (no offense 9t8z28)

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    seems crystal clear from 9t8z28 description.
    how'd you break your bellhousing and what were your symptoms??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    Well I finally got a hold of McLeod tech support. They stated that the LS1 was not designed for a flat plate and that some LS1's oil pans flanges tend to go past the block. Tech guy recommend that if I had that situation to shave it down with a grinder to make it flush. Comments/opinions?
    No offense taken.
    Here is one of your own answers.

    How do you think you are going to clearance your oil pan? In my opinion, it would be wise to take it off to do it and take it to a machine shop, but, WTF would you wanna do that? That pan has to be put on a certain way. It's not just a matter of unbolting it and slapping it back on. If you were gonna do it on the car, you would have to use a big a$$ grinder. No way!

    The Quick Time block saver bolts on with no issues.
    Last edited by 9t8z28; 07-10-2010 at 07:58 PM.

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    Let me ask you this, what mods are you willing to do to install this on your car?

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