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This is a discussion on LS1 Head Castings within the General Help forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by c5z28 You may post a vid of the noise to see if anyone can diagnose the problem. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    You may post a vid of the noise to see if anyone can diagnose the problem.
    whats TJEA veteran may I ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by getcha01 View Post
    whats TJEA veteran may I ask?
    you can ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by getcha01 View Post
    Im a little late on this because I usually just get on here couple times a week unless im on a roll...but he's right, theres a lot of cams out there, dont go with Z06 cam for sure, cause it aint much, just race a Z06 vette around your year car and you will see why I say that...they arent much faster if any at all..they handle great, way better than a WS6 and the WS6 handles awesome over my buddys 98' Z28....you do need hardened pushrods and bigger valve springs, an while your at it have your machine shop do a valve and port matching job to them to help that new cam out...the stock heads are aluminum, and back in the day that was the big thing, so you can really work wonder out of our F-body heads, but the block is a little thin in the cylinder walls to get too crazy lol, after all that make sure to get it dyno tuned and have every head,valve,cam,bolton spec to give to the tuner so he can get it perfect, I seen my buddys 98'Z28 go from running 13.90's with headers, then every boltons,intake,gears and all but cam and internal parts, he got down to 13.30 with 4.10's, and a 3,000 stall with nitto's, and I outran him in my 01' WS6 at the track the 2nd week I had my car, I ran 13.08 with just a SLP lid,msd plug wires, and a tore up tranny....then I had about $6,000 done in my tranny,clutch,headers,other boltons, and havnt ran it yet, and he had just a dyno tune done and went 12.47...he dropped .8 tenths of a second from a tune, they said everything he had done was starting to slow it down actually and mess computer up...mainly with the cat delete,New intake and the LT headers, its was putting wrong gas mixtures in and what not....I installed LT's, and deleted my cats, and had a $3,000 bench tranny job done, and installed my spec clutch, then got laid off, and now my clutch is out after 3 months of having it in, my tranny guy said water got on it, bit Im sending it to spec and we will see...then im going to beat my buddy's 12.47 cause he usually cant get me on the street........smileeeeeeeeeeeee

    you are crazy if you think this is true. they weight less and have high HP. how could you statement be true? maybe if the person driveing the Z06 didnt know how to drive. but same driver, stock for stock, a Z06 will eat a f-body.

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    Getcha,

    Why do you whore up every thread? No one cares about your $3k tranny rebuild or what your car runs or what your buddies car runs or the mods etc etc etc.

    For fucking sake, PLEASE STOP WASTING BOARD SPACE and everyone's time. Although, it does humor me a little bit every time i see you post the same shit. You sir, need a civic, not a t/a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silversho89 View Post
    Getcha,

    Why do you whore up every thread? No one cares about your $3k tranny rebuild or what your car runs or what your buddies car runs or the mods etc etc etc.

    For fucking sake, PLEASE STOP WASTING BOARD SPACE and everyone's time. Although, it does humor me a little bit every time i see you post the same shit. You sir, need a civic, not a t/a.

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    As stated above geyourself a good tuner and throw a 224 or 228 cam in there and your car will ride smooth and idle nicely. I personally went with the TR224 cam, other mods and dyno #s are in sig. The car drives solid, I can keep her tame under 3500 RPMs or open her up and let her rip above if I wann ahave some fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getcha01 View Post
    I have actually heard never seen on paper that the 241 heads made about 10hp more than the earlier heads, and the LS6 heads made 15hp more over the 241's due to smoother angles,larger ports, and makes your engine have 10.5:1 compression over the stock 10:1....but I really wouldnt mess with LS6 heads or cam, because a 2001-2002 LS1 they all had 241 heads and the dyno shop that I talked to here in southern illinois told me a 2001 SS he tested was rated at 325hp and the 01 and 02 LS1's made usually around 295-310 RWHP even on Z28's that were rated at 310hp, and he's seen WS6 and SS pull 300-335RWHP...all stock, and he said the Z06's that were rated at 385hp would pull around 320-340RWHP....he thinks the heads and cam on the Z06 only made a couple more hp over the LS1 and that he thinks its all in the exhaust...he said a 385hp Z06 that had headers installed would make 15hp max cause the exhaust manifolds are made better on the LS6 engine, but he said the LS1 cars he seen with headers would make up to 35hp more just from stock manifolds to LT headers...so personally I think LS6 heads n cam would only give you about 10 or 15 more hp...but headers and 228 cam, and some head work on the 241's youd be changing your rear end soon after all that.
    lots of good facts in this tremendously huge run on sentence thingy..

    Quote Originally Posted by getcha01 View Post
    Im a little late on this because I usually just get on here couple times a week unless im on a roll...but he's right, theres a lot of cams out there, dont go with Z06 cam for sure, cause it aint much, just race a Z06 vette around your year car and you will see why I say that...they arent much faster if any at all..they handle great, way better than a WS6 and the WS6 handles awesome over my buddys 98' Z28....you do need hardened pushrods and bigger valve springs, an while your at it have your machine shop do a valve and port matching job to them to help that new cam out...the stock heads are aluminum, and back in the day that was the big thing, so you can really work wonder out of our F-body heads, but the block is a little thin in the cylinder walls to get too crazy lol, after all that make sure to get it dyno tuned and have every head,valve,cam,bolton spec to give to the tuner so he can get it perfect, I seen my buddys 98'Z28 go from running 13.90's with headers, then every boltons,intake,gears and all but cam and internal parts, he got down to 13.30 with 4.10's, and a 3,000 stall with nitto's, and I outran him in my 01' WS6 at the track the 2nd week I had my car, I ran 13.08 with just a SLP lid,msd plug wires, and a tore up tranny....then I had about $6,000 done in my tranny,clutch,headers,other boltons, and havnt ran it yet, and he had just a dyno tune done and went 12.47...he dropped .8 tenths of a second from a tune, they said everything he had done was starting to slow it down actually and mess computer up...mainly with the cat delete,New intake and the LT headers, its was putting wrong gas mixtures in and what not....I installed LT's, and deleted my cats, and had a $3,000 bench tranny job done, and installed my spec clutch, then got laid off, and now my clutch is out after 3 months of having it in, my tranny guy said water got on it, bit Im sending it to spec and we will see...then im going to beat my buddy's 12.47 cause he usually cant get me on the street........smileeeeeeeeeeeee
    yea your right man... zo6s only run low-mid 12s stock and trap 116-118.. and mid 11s @ 120+ with simple bolt ons..
    they arent any faster, if faster at all..

    hell.. my car was pretty much stock.. just had..
    ms4 cam
    prc LS6 heads
    ported 9090 intake
    4k VIG stall
    410s
    custom Xpipe
    1 chambers
    pacesetter LTs
    dyno tune
    weighed just under 3k lbs
    etc etc etc..

    raced my buddies 03 quick silver zo6 with a CAI from aout 35-110... pulled him by about 1-1 1/2 car lengths..

    wait, something didnt just add up..


    getcha seems to be behind times a little bit....... ok, well a lot..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons12 View Post
    lots of good facts in this tremendously huge run on sentence thingy..



    yea your right man... zo6s only run low-mid 12s stock and trap 116-118.. and mid 11s @ 120+ with simple bolt ons..
    they arent any faster, if faster at all..

    hell.. my car was pretty much stock.. just had..
    ms4 cam
    prc LS6 heads
    ported 9090 intake
    4k VIG stall
    410s
    custom Xpipe
    1 chambers
    pacesetter LTs
    dyno tune
    weighed just under 3k lbs
    etc etc etc..

    raced my buddies 03 quick silver zo6 with a CAI from aout 35-110... pulled him by about 1-1 1/2 car lengths..

    wait, something didnt just add up..


    getcha seems to be behind times a little bit....... ok, well a lot..



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    the definition of stock sure has alot of different means around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getcha01 View Post
    Im a little late on this because I usually just get on here couple times a week unless im on a roll...but he's right, theres a lot of cams out there, dont go with Z06 cam for sure, cause it aint much, just race a Z06 vette around your year car and you will see why I say that...they arent much faster if any at all..they handle great, way better than a WS6 and the WS6 handles awesome over my buddys 98' Z28....you do need hardened pushrods and bigger valve springs, an while your at it have your machine shop do a valve and port matching job to them to help that new cam out...the stock heads are aluminum, and back in the day that was the big thing, so you can really work wonder out of our F-body heads, but the block is a little thin in the cylinder walls to get too crazy lol, after all that make sure to get it dyno tuned and have every head,valve,cam,bolton spec to give to the tuner so he can get it perfect, I seen my buddys 98'Z28 go from running 13.90's with headers, then every boltons,intake,gears and all but cam and internal parts, he got down to 13.30 with 4.10's, and a 3,000 stall with nitto's, and I outran him in my 01' WS6 at the track the 2nd week I had my car, I ran 13.08 with just a SLP lid,msd plug wires, and a tore up tranny....then I had about $6,000 done in my tranny,clutch,headers,other boltons, and havnt ran it yet, and he had just a dyno tune done and went 12.47...he dropped .8 tenths of a second from a tune, they said everything he had done was starting to slow it down actually and mess computer up...mainly with the cat delete,New intake and the LT headers, its was putting wrong gas mixtures in and what not....I installed LT's, and deleted my cats, and had a $3,000 bench tranny job done, and installed my spec clutch, then got laid off, and now my clutch is out after 3 months of having it in, my tranny guy said water got on it, bit Im sending it to spec and we will see...then im going to beat my buddy's 12.47 cause he usually cant get me on the street........smileeeeeeeeeeeee
    i have a zo6 cam and my car run 12.80 113 mph in th 1\4

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    Quote Originally Posted by leez28 View Post
    i have a zo6 cam and my car run 12.80 113 mph in th 1\4
    Way to bring back a dead thread

    I don't have one and I ran a 12.7


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    Quote Originally Posted by leez28 View Post
    i have a zo6 cam and my car run 12.80 113 mph in th 1\4
    My girlfriend has one in here Trans Am and runs 11.7s..

    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    Way to bring back a dead thread

    I don't have one and I ran a 12.7

    Me either, and I run low 11s..




    And gimme back my damn Ape!!!!

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