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This is a discussion on long tube headers within the General Help forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; I'm about to buy some long tube headers and don't have enough money to buy the y pipes yet can ...

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    I'm about to buy some long tube headers and don't have enough money to buy the y pipes yet can I go ahead and just run the car with the headers only with just the two front o2s will it mess my car u I have a 2000 trans am

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    Do you mean open headers or hooked uo to you existing system ? Open headers will drive you and everyone else crazy but I do not think it will hurt the car even though you will throw codes. Just wait and get the system you want and do the job right the first time.

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    I'm buying long tube headers and don't have the money to get the whole system right now just want to run the long tubes for like a month before I get the rest

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    What's the benefits of long tube compared to Shorty.. or what's the reason one will be chosen over the other

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    Long tube headers will not bolt up to your existing exhaust system. Unless you had an exhaust shop modify your existing Y then it would not work. I really urge you to just hold off till you can get a y pipe.

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    I did it for 3 days and after the first between the exhaust fumes and open header noise it got old fast. My clothes smelled like exhaust also. Not to mention everytime I saw a cop I hoped I didn't get pulled. Sounds awesome for a while but wears off.
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    I also found that the car drove like crap with just LT headers on, my throttle response was pretty bad.
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    So I should just hold off huh I think I'm going to go ahead and buy them and just hold off till I get the money for the y pipes

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    What headers are you getting? I got the OBX system off eBay with the y-pipe included and love them price was right fittment was great, you can get them catted ($6??.00) or resonators ($520.00) I would suggest getting the cats I got the resonators and have a rasp sound, others with cats don't have it...some will say thay are junk but I would say otherwise. Very nice piece and so far glad I saved a good chunk of change..then let Frost do a tune and tune out the rear o2's.. But how ever you do it get all your parts and the tear into it once!

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    Or you can get the BBK kit which comes with a y-pipe

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    Yeah I was going to get just the headers off eBay because I've herd good things and there super cheap but I guess I can wait and save up for the ones your talking about the whole system do the sound good ?

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    i bought the ebay headers and they were great except the first set i bought had the 02 bungs on wrong sides.
    a Y-pipe should only run you 150 or less is you find a used one.. i believe you should find one on here,ebay, or ls1tech.com even cheaper

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    If you do the ebay headers this is the y-pipe you want. stainless, good quality and cheap

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    Buy the headers now and set them aside. When you can purchase a Y-pipe, then complete your install. No sense doing it twice in that short a time period. I would not run open headers. The O2 senders are back in the collectors and without a Y-pipe the exhaust stream will be mixed with outside air and really throw off your fueling. Also, pick up a set of Bosch P/N 13111 O2 senders for your car. They have a nice long harness and will not require the use of extensions or modifications to the wire harness in order to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big D Squared View Post
    Yeah I was going to get just the headers off eBay because I've herd good things and there super cheap but I guess I can wait and save up for the ones your talking about the whole system do the sound good ?
    I got the obx ones with the catted y pipe it sounds really good. This is a clip of my car after it was installed:


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    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    I got the obx ones with the catted y pipe it sounds really good. This is a clip of my car after it was installed:

    What catback are you running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boothe View Post
    What's the benefits of long tube compared to Shorty.. or what's the reason one will be chosen over the other

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    In a nut shell,, an engine gets greater exhaust velosity(sp) with long tubes rather than shorty headers.

    The greater velosity helps clear the cylinders of exhaust better than shorties.

    Helps give a better/cleaner fuel mixture, equaling more power.

    There's more to it obvioulsy, with scavenging and so forth but that's the jist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    Buy the headers now and set them aside. When you can purchase a Y-pipe, then complete your install. No sense doing it twice in that short a time period. I would not run open headers. The O2 senders are back in the collectors and without a Y-pipe the exhaust stream will be mixed with outside air and really throw off your fueling. Also, pick up a set of Bosch P/N 13111 O2 senders for your car. They have a nice long harness and will not require the use of extensions or modifications to the wire harness in order to work.
    this pretty much nails why you shouldn't run headers only.....

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    Also, shortie headers have proven to be a waste of money, the stock LS1 manifolds do as good a job as shorties. Many people here have proven it on the dyno. You probably should wait a few days after you have the headers on, before you put the new O2 sensors on. Sometimes they sensors get fouled from the coating on the inside of the header. Sometimes not (like me), but I've heard it does happen. Yeah, your Check Engine light will be on, you can drive it like that as long as you wanna until you get it tuned, as long as you don't mind the light or have an emissions check in your area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boothe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    I got the obx ones with the catted y pipe it sounds really good. This is a clip of my car after it was installed:

    What catback are you running?

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