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This is a discussion on i need help within the General Help forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; ok so i have a 98 ls1 camaro,i wanna make atleast 400hp,i was thinkin a cam,lts,373s,ls6manifold and ported tb,a tune...u ...

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    ok so i have a 98 ls1 camaro,i wanna make atleast 400hp,i was thinkin a cam,lts,373s,ls6manifold and ported tb,a tune...u guys think that would be enought? and where can i get these parts and which ones are better

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    Depending on the cam it should be enough
    The gears wont really help for horsepower but it'll pull better
    Are you an A4 or M6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot91 View Post
    Depending on the cam it should be enough
    The gears wont really help for horsepower but it'll pull better
    Are you an A4 or M6?
    stick shift,m6 means manual right

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    Yup
    start looking around for different streetable cams if thats what your looking for and see what people have gotten for gains and how they like it overall.

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    thanks,i want a cam dat isnt to agresive though i mean it is my daily driver

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    tsp 228 from texas speed call them tell them what you want, if they can't answer all your questions then no one can.

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    im a big fan of the torquer 2 from texas speed...i had some good results from that cam and they are great to talk to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocos_ls1 View Post
    thanks,i want a cam dat isnt to agresive though i mean it is my daily driver
    Depending on the dyno your using will also mean hitting the 400whp mark or not, how the dyno is programmed and calibrated by the shop effect numbers. But dyno numbers are just tuning tools, what you should really be shooting for is a certain trap speed or E.T. IMO 120mph is a decent trap speed for a cammed ls1 car at full weight.
    Last edited by Zinergy; 09-30-2009 at 12:26 PM.

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    Yeah, heard lots of good things on the 228.
    Also wanted to let you know if you have a six speed then 4.10 would be a much better rear gear for you. 3.73s are better for autos.

    You'll notice a difference, but if you want the best pull, go 4.10s.

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    yup its got to be a mid size cam. anything over 228.
    torquer 2 would put you over 400 with full boltons and no cats.
    I'm looking into the Ms3 or Ms4 cam from texas speed. it a lil bigger.
    a friend of mine put down 435 with a ms3,lts,Off road Y,loud mouth exhaust,fast 90/90,underdrive pully,lid and tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01SOMSS! View Post
    yup its got to be a mid size cam. anything over 228.
    torquer 2 would put you over 400 with full boltons and no cats.
    I'm looking into the Ms3 or Ms4 cam from texas speed. it a lil bigger.
    a friend of mine put down 435 with a ms3,lts,Off road Y,loud mouth exhaust,fast 90/90,underdrive pully,lid and tune.
    Is the MS3 a street friendly cam for a DD though? I thought it wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Is the MS3 a street friendly cam for a DD though? I thought it wasn't.
    The MS3 is about as radical a street cam as i could imagine. Heard it once on a guys DD and he said he liked it. Dont know if i'd go any bigger than that on the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot91 View Post
    The MS3 is about as radical a street cam as i could imagine. Heard it once on a guys DD and he said he liked it. Dont know if i'd go any bigger than that on the street.
    got a bud with an ms4 daily driver, thing is radical, it barely idles, guy has a rep around town though,

    "dude i got a ______, with ____ done to it, its so fast!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    tsp 228 from texas speed call them tell them what you want, if they can't answer all your questions then no one can.
    where can i get the number?

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    What is the goal? Just 400+ HP? You say it's your DD. You need torque under the curve that some high hp cams destroy.

    I would begin with some good 1 3/4" long tube headers and find a used SLP Dual/Dual cat back. I only see 6 RWHP difference between closed exhaust through the Dual/Dual and open cutouts. Next up would be an air lid. You looking for good 1/4 mile times? Start on the shocks/suspension/Drag radials.

    You do a cam & you also need valve springs & pushrods & you need someone who knows how to get the correct length pushrod for the proper lifter preload.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KP1 View Post
    What is the goal? Just 400+ HP? You say it's your DD. You need torque under the curve that some high hp cams destroy.

    I would begin with some good 1 3/4" long tube headers and find a used SLP Dual/Dual cat back. I only see 6 RWHP difference between closed exhaust through the Dual/Dual and open cutouts. Next up would be an air lid. You looking for good 1/4 mile times? Start on the shocks/suspension/Drag radials.

    You do a cam & you also need valve springs & pushrods & you need someone who knows how to get the correct length pushrod for the proper lifter preload.

    Good luck!

    i just want 400hp atleast,im gettin a ls6 manifold,portin my tb,pacessetter lts,a cam,373s and a tune,i mite get ls6 ported heads too but not for sure yet about the heads,i have the lid already and short shifter,im gettin everything slowly to get better prices because ether way i want to put it all together in april-may.so i can be ready by june or july..i already have an eye on a ls6 manifold for 300bucks,mite pik it up next week,and the headers im hopin to find or ether way my friend can get me some kooks for 350

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    also yes is my daily driver so i dont want a cam too agressive that i cant enjoy as a dd.and im not really lookin for track time i just want to feel the power i feel like its slow since im used to it now,and well il take it to the track too just to c what it can do,i want to do it right thats why im waitin untill may to put everything in at once this way i have time to get different ideas and dont spend the money all at once haha

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    I would do gears 1st. I have 4.10 gears and I trap @ 121 @ 6450 RPMs (and I'm not just cam & bolt ons). If you concentrate on torque rather than just a peak HP#, you can push it down the track fine with 3.73 gears. If I had it to do over, I'd get 3.90s or maybe 3.73s.

    Headers and would be step #2 in my opinion, then intake and cam/springs last. When it's time for a cam, you can have one custom designed for just a few dollars more than off the shelf.
    Last edited by KP1; 10-11-2009 at 06:49 PM.

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    You're not getting a mild cam if you want 400hp at the wheels. When you decide to go big I have some worked 5.3's

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