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How to Bypass your VATS

This is a discussion on How to Bypass your VATS within the General Help forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; glad you got it worked out.......not many cheap and easy fixes out there but this definitely falls in that category....

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    glad you got it worked out.......not many cheap and easy fixes out there but this definitely falls in that category.

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    well my car decided to do this last night when i tried leaving work. ive got key number 3 or 681 ohms is what my key measures at. what are the incriments that the resistors come in because everyone that has posted in here all have the higher ohm keys unlike myself. i tried searching radio shacks website but had no luck.

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    They come in millions of different values. There are 1 ohm resistors and they usually count off by 5 ohms after that. If you go to Radio Shack you might have to get a few resistor to count up near the value you're looking for (ie 500 + 150+25+10=685. That will get you close enough). You'll have to just look to see what they have.
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    hmm.i measured my key and it comes out to 6.0 ohms. i found theresistors.(had to solder two together) and i used the fixed resistors.not the variable ones.my light never went off.its still on.ive trid this twice on this car.i have already been successful at this mod with my other car.thats why i cant figure out why this darn light is stll illuminated.

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    6 ohms is too small. You probably have a 6,xxx ohms key. Check your meter settings.

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    My meter has the automatic ohms reader and it varies from 0.0 to 0.3 and all in between. My little "chip" thing in the key wiggles....what should I do?! She won't start at all save me!!

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    Seems like it all points to needing a new key...if so where do I get one made?? I know wally world doesn't have them

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    if you do the vats bypass you don't need a chip in the key period. It's not your key. You're either not getting the correct resistance or you're wiring it up wrong. There is no pellet key for 6 ohms. You're probably seeing 6k which would mean you need to get a series of resistors to get you to 6040 ohms which is the median for that pellet code. After that make sure you're wiring them in between the wires correctly and if you're using more than 1 resistor they have to be connected end to end.

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    Bought a new meter. When set to 2000 I get a reading of 1865. About to go buy my resistors and give it another shot. Wish me luck!!!

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    Crap there are M ohms K ohms and plain ohms. On 2000 mine read 1865. So RadioShack had 1k the lowest and the next is 2.2k and no in between. Autozone doesn't have any. Wouldn't I need like a .8k or two .4ks?

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    You should be able to find a variety pack that has some smaller resistors. You might end up buying alot more resistors then you need but they are cheap. BTW .8K ohms equals 800 ohms and likewise .4K ohms equals 400 ohms. I'm just pointing that out in case that info helps you find what you need.

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    There are only 15 Values for Vats

    1=392 ohms
    2=523
    3=681
    4=887
    5=1130
    6=1470
    7=1870
    8=2370
    9=3010
    10=3740
    11=4750
    12=6040
    13=7500
    14=9530
    15=11800

    your key pellet will usually measure different but the vats system wants to see one of these 12 so you want to get as close to one of the 15 as you can. not what the key reads as the pellets resistance change and go outside of the tolerance and then the car wont start.


    Would anyone be interested in a simple plug and play fix? I can do this relatively cheap. ~$10-$20 shipped. just putting throwing it out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDHedman View Post
    There are only 15 Values for Vats

    1=392 ohms
    2=523
    3=681
    4=887
    5=1130
    6=1470
    7=1870
    8=2370
    9=3010
    10=3740
    11=4750
    12=6040
    13=7500
    14=9530
    15=11800

    your key pellet will usually measure different but the vats system wants to see one of these 12 so you want to get as close to one of the 12 as you can. not what the key reads as the pellets resistance change and go outside of the tolerance and then the car wont start.


    Would anyone be interested in a simple plug and play fix? I can do this relatively cheap. ~$10-$20 shipped. just putting throwing it out there
    woah wait. Are you saing I can us any of these values? Cuz my car is closest to #7.

    Anyway if I use more than one resistor can the be soldered together and then attached? Cuz I did that and the ohms went way down....I added a 1.5k and 330 ohm resistor. So confused. Someone needs to make a how to video lol. Elecrtricity and I don't mix

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    Tried them together, tried them apart. Still won't start. I feel like dying right now. GM guy said my key is fine. I've used these resistors to match what closely to the key. Cut the wires and attached one end to each wire and back to the connector piece. Am I doing something wrong?! JDHedman tell me more about this plug and play fix. I'm desperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechad125 View Post
    Tried them together, tried them apart. Still won't start. I feel like dying right now. GM guy said my key is fine. I've used these resistors to match what closely to the key. Cut the wires and attached one end to each wire and back to the connector piece. Am I doing something wrong?! JDHedman tell me more about this plug and play fix. I'm desperate.
    what do you mean by that? You have a 2 wire connector. After you cut the connector off you want those resistors end to end between the wires on the car side of that connector....not the column side. You're using the resistors to bridge between those wires. If you're doing that and the car won't start then you don't have the correct resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechad125 View Post
    woah wait. Are you saing I can us any of these values? Cuz my car is closest to #7.

    Anyway if I use more than one resistor can the be soldered together and then attached? Cuz I did that and the ohms went way down....I added a 1.5k and 330 ohm resistor. So confused. Someone needs to make a how to video lol. Elecrtricity and I don't mix
    No. You have to use the one that is closest to your key I believe.
    And it sounds like you wired the resistors in parallel. You need to wire them end to end (in series) like 0rion said.

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    So I don't need the connector correct?

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    You can cut off the side that has the orange cable with the 2 tiny white wires and connect your resistors to it and plug it in. I've seen people do that before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    You can cut off the side that has the orange cable with the 2 tiny white wires and connect your resistors to it and plug it in. I've seen people do that before.
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    that's how I did it. I cut that orange cable an inch or so on the column side, put my resistors between those 2 wires, and plugged it back in. That way you can do the soldering outside the car.

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    This is what it looks like and it won't work. Am I wrong or is the resistance wrong? I didn't solder cuz I had a feeling it wouldn't work

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