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This is a discussion on Fram Extended Guard within the General Help forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by Blackbird-WS6 i looked it up and i got part number XG3506 I got XG3506 also. Actually my ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird-WS6 View Post
    i looked it up and i got part number XG3506
    I got XG3506 also. Actually my 4 cyl Chevy Colorado calls for the same one, easy enough to remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Mobil1 filters went Fram XG. That is what all this is about man
    Go drink some coffee and read again.
    ok maybe iam a sleep but from what i read mobil1 is still a good filter and now fram xg is just as good. right are wrong?

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    Right.

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    thanks sarge

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    well now for my next oil change im going with the xg. im tire of the acdelco. its a pain in the ass to remove sometimes.

    will i be better off using the xg or a k&n?

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    KN less flow.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    KN less flow.....
    do you have a new updated list of your top pick filters and top pick oils? if so can you link me or post it on here

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    Austin huh? I can go out on my back porch and shoot my 25-06 and probably rain down on you

    Filters
    Amsoil
    Hastings
    Fram XG
    Mobil1
    Pure One by Purolator

    Oil
    Amsoil
    Mobil1 EP
    Pennzoil Ultra
    Schaeffers
    Quaker State Ultimate Dependability
    Castrol Edge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Austin huh? I can go out on my back porch and shoot my 25-06 and probably rain down on you

    Filters
    Amsoil
    Hastings
    Fram XG
    Mobil1
    Pure One by Purolator

    Oil
    Amsoil
    Mobil1 EP
    Pennzoil Ultra
    Schaeffers
    Quaker State Ultimate Dependability
    Castrol Edge
    hehe nice. lake travis? cedar park?
    k&n isnt even in the top 5.

    thanks for the list i guess XG it is along with PP. i've used Pennzoil Ultra when it first came out and really didn't notice much of a difference between it and PP.

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    Ultra has more cleaning and FM.....My ranch is about 15 miles outside of Boerne.....

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    Sarge what do you think of Mobil 1 synthetic high mileage? should I stick with it? or Mobil EP? or PP? Whats your resident oil analyzer opinion? thanks.

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    Post Micro VS. Nano

    It's good to see Honeywell putting some nice quality back into the Fram name.

    I've got to draw a distinction though.


    Micrometer - one millionth of 1 meter.

    Nanometre - one billionth of 1 meter.


    Fram XG = Microscopic synthetic fibers.

    Amsoil EA = Nanoscopic synthetic fibers.


    Fram P/N #XG3506 - ISO 4548-12 of 97.0 percent at 20 microns.

    Amsoil P/N #EA15K32 - ISO 4548-12 of 98.7 percent at 15 microns.


    Fram P/N #XG3506 - Price: $8.97 (Amazon)

    Amsoil P/N #EA15K32 - Price: $13.70 Retail, $10.40 PC

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayTA98 View Post
    Sarge what do you think of Mobil 1 synthetic high mileage? should I stick with it? or Mobil EP? or PP? Whats your resident oil analyzer opinion? thanks.
    EP all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CompSyn View Post
    It's good to see Honeywell putting some nice quality back into the Fram name.

    I've got to draw a distinction though.


    Micrometer - one millionth of 1 meter.

    Nanometre - one billionth of 1 meter.


    Fram XG = Microscopic synthetic fibers.

    Amsoil EA = Nanoscopic synthetic fibers.


    Fram P/N #XG3506 - ISO 4548-12 of 97.0 percent at 20 microns.

    Amsoil P/N #EA15K32 - ISO 4548-12 of 98.7 percent at 15 microns.


    Fram P/N #XG3506 - Price: $8.97 (Amazon)

    Amsoil P/N #EA15K32 - Price: $13.70 Retail, $10.40 PC

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    Oh no doubt there are filters that filter more micro specs . Of course we are talking fractions of thousandths when I say more. But also remember this is not a Toyota forum. This is V8 American muscle forum and we want flow and filtration.
    Trade off is always flow or filtration. More filtration less flow....and vice versa. So you have to hit your sweet spot. These frams hit that sweet spot allowing the flow we require with excellent filtration. I would be remiss if I failed to mention holding capacity. Frams holding capacity is superior to the market alternatives. Holding capacity as in how much weight of "stuff" it holds while continuing with maintaining flow.

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    Post More holding, more flow...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Oh no doubt there are filters that filter more micro specs . Of course we are talking fractions of thousandths when I say more. But also remember this is not a Toyota forum. This is V8 American muscle forum and we want flow and filtration.
    Trade off is always flow or filtration. More filtration less flow....and vice versa. So you have to hit your sweet spot. These frams hit that sweet spot allowing the flow we require with excellent filtration. I would be remiss if I failed to mention holding capacity. Frams holding capacity is superior to the market alternatives. Holding capacity as in how much weight of "stuff" it holds while continuing with maintaining flow.
    I miss good old George:

    Quote Originally Posted by George Morrison, STLE CLS
    As example, a 3 micron beta 200 microglass element has less restriction than a 30 micron paper element. Filter paper manufacture is not an exact science. In many paper elements, as much as 40% of the filter may not pass oil at all, thus reducing contaminant holding capacity and increasing flow resistance. Conversely, a "manufactured" microglass element can flow through 100% of its area which results in considerably increased contaminant capacity along with lower DP/resistance compared with a paper filter medium.
    So if typical factory/OEM paper oil filters such as the ones that came factory stock on LSx engines inherently had up to 40% restriction, the nanofiber glass filter will be a big improvement in both holding capacity and flow.

    Those aren't my words but the words from a Certified Lubrication Specialist (Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers).

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    Hey sarge, i use the PP 10w30 on my ls1. It has 210,400 miles on it. the car runs great all the time and i would like to get it to 300,000. Should i stay with the same oil or should i start using Ultra or something else. Thank You

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    EP all the way.
    Thank you. Can I really change it at 10k like it says?

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    If you drive a 4 banger Toyota just highway miles the you can go 10K.
    I would go 5K with an LSX V8.
    Last edited by Sarge; 01-24-2011 at 05:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by som ss 2001 View Post
    Hey sarge, i use the PP 10w30 on my ls1. It has 210,400 miles on it. the car runs great all the time and i would like to get it to 300,000. Should i stay with the same oil or should i start using Ultra or something else. Thank You
    PP is great oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CompSyn View Post
    I miss good old George:



    So if typical factory/OEM paper oil filters such as the ones that came factory stock on LSx engines inherently had up to 40% restriction, the nanofiber glass filter will be a big improvement in both holding capacity and flow.

    Those aren't my words but the words from a Certified Lubrication Specialist (Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers).

    CompSyn
    When pressed....George clarified he was saying 40% of the filter was not element...but metal can,silicon ADBV etc. No shit! Not 40% restriction (per a bubble test) of the filtering media....but only 40% of the entire filter was actually filtering media. I got involved in that statement

    With that understood......I agree nano fiber is the way to go. I like the synthetic flitering media for sure. And as we both know Fram XG is not paper anyway so it is a mute point.

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